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    Quote Originally Posted by Ǻɔɘ ȯƒ Șρąđēş View Post
    I'm not asking what defines human life.
    The option you choose does affect your moral value on life because as you've already stated, "all lives are equal", however if you do choose the college kids then you've also denied the seniors the right to live.
    That being from a moral standpoint.
    Either decision you make is difficult, but if you look at it from an objective view, then I too would pick the college kids because they have more to offer to life than seniors that have lived most of thier lives out.
    I feel the lives of those 99 college kids are more productive than the lives of 100 senior citizens.
    I think you just phrased it the wrong way. The question you're asking is if everyone has the same entitlement to life, not if their lives are equal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Perplexity View Post
    I think you just phrased it the wrong way. The question you're asking is if everyone has the same entitlement to life, not if their lives are equal.
    Indeed.
    I should've phrased it differently, my mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ǻɔɘ ȯƒ Șρąđēş View Post
    The question is a matter of equality AND value...
    Yes all lives are equal, but whose holds more value?
    Who's life is more valuable? More productive? More beneficial to society? More benefical to the continuing of our species?
    Let me go back to the OP, where I stated the life of a murderer is a worth less than a productive, law abiding citizen.
    Why?
    Because, how is a murderer's life more benefical to our society & our species, or more productive to humanity when they're out killing off our species and destroying our society?
    You agreed with me and answered your own question. All lives are equal. I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    You agreed with me and answered your own question. All lives are equal. I'm out.
    I conceded that I worded the question differently than I should've.
    But you're right, you've answered the original question & I agreed with you to an extent.
    Mission Accomplished.
    Thanks for partaking in the discussion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    Yes all lives are equal. You can't pick and choose what constitutes a human being, there is no such thing as human and sub-human. Every life on the planet is equal to each others. If you grade the value of a life by what they do then you're opening a door that's best left closed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    But to answer that question says nothing of what defines human life, it's just a simple "a or b". If you save the college kids its because they have more of a life to live it's not denying that the seniors are just as entitled to life and equally as human as the college kids. It's only an objective value it says nothing about what human life is and whatever option you choose doesn't make you more or less moral.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    True, but the law isn't always perfect. I mean *insert country* where they *insert weird law*


    But what defines human life is integral to this discussion is it not? If you pick either option in the hypothetical you presented it doesn't prove anything. No matter what you pick you're still going to deny the others. It means nothing, the answer is irrelevant with regards to whether or not all human life is equal.

    Forcing objectivity on what is an ethical topic isn't going to prove anything. All lives are equal and picking the college kids doesn't negate the fact that the seniors are equally alive and equally human. The fact that it's such a difficult dilemma is because human lives are equal and we don't consider someone to be less human once they pass a certain age.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson View Post
    You agreed with me and answered your own question. All lives are equal. I'm out.
    well done hudsey. 2 stamps for you .
    aren't you glad you were taught all this by me ?
    Last edited by gmc-got-talent; 10-25-2010 at 12:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ǻɔɘ ȯƒ Șρąđēş View Post
    For a more controversial example, I would argue that an American's life is worth more than the life of someone from a third world country.

    Thoughts?

    You sound as ignorant as US government.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipps View Post
    You sound as ignorant as US government.
    Implying that the US gov. is indeed "ignorant".
    What it is ignorant of, you'd have to tell me.
    I apologize for favoring my nation over other nations. (Not really).
    But thanks for your input.

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    How about you change the picture of bob marley,stop asking stupid questions to justify your own twisted feelings and drop dead in a dark little corner. How does that work?


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    I would argue that the life of someone from a third world country is more valuable than that of an American.

    The more populous a poor country is, the more they will need jobs to support themselves. The more desperate they are for jobs, the more willing they are to work for smaller pay. The smaller the pay, the cheaper the goods.

    Without third world countries we wouldn't have pencils or calculators or dishes.

    The life of someone from a third world country is more valuable because of the cheap labour they have to offer.

    When actually, only an ignorant **** would say an American's life is worth more than someone from a poor country because it holds neither moral nor logical sense.

    You can sound like a dick by arguing this from any direction. People like to sound so deep and edgy by taking controversial stances like this, but it's common fucking sense.

    Should someone, namely a government, be allowed to decide a certain demographic is more valuable than the other? No.

    If I was in a room and had to choose between killing a murderer and an innocent person, **** yes I would kill the murderer.

    The two are in no way related. When left with an a or b choice, a person is going to have to choose a or b. That's the way it is. There's nothing moral about it. But to have a certain definition for who has more of a right to life leaves too much room for too many psychos to make their own exceptions.

    Common. Fucking. Sense

    Also, what Hudson said.
    Last edited by CoRy; 10-27-2010 at 04:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipps View Post
    How about you change the picture of bob marley,stop asking stupid questions to justify your own twisted feelings and drop dead in a dark little corner. How does that work?
    Does my avatar bother you?
    Did Bob Marley do something terrible to you?
    You seem to have a lot of anger built up.



    My friend, the process is quite simple, if you don't like what is being posted always remember, *whispers* you don't have to respond.
    Also, please miss me with the mediocre & unoriginal insults.
    "Drop dead in a dark little corner"

    The reason I posted the thread is to see what others think about the value of each human life.
    This is not a thread to "justify my twisted feelings", I'm merely looking for other people's input, you may not agree with my viewpoint, but that is the whole purpose of having a Debate forum.
    You've given your input and even as insultingly as it was, it is still appreciated.
    Last edited by Ǻɔɘ ȯƒ Șρąđēş; 10-27-2010 at 07:33 AM.

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