I think they look like a team with no offensive weapons and an aging defense. Outlook not so good in Pittsburgh in my opinion.Originally Posted by $$ICE$$
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I think they look like a team with no offensive weapons and an aging defense. Outlook not so good in Pittsburgh in my opinion.
I agree. They'll either have to make some tough cuts or lose their only legit offensive weapon. Lose-lose situation for them. I thought an organization like that would be more competent in terms of knowing the cap and how much they have to spend and will have to spend in the future.
As much as I love Green Bay, I'm sick of seeing the same teams winning every year. I'm ready for a new team to win, I hope the Detroit Lions can pull it off. The NFL is going downhill, I'm not enjoying games anymore like I use to. Maybe its stress from school or just the million commercials I have to sit through during games.
I'll be happy if the Steelers get rid of Mike Wallace. I'm tired of them winning all the time. I hope he goes to the 9er's cause they need a top receiver like him.
I'm really liking the combine so far. I don't normally get a chance to see a lot of college football so this is my first real chance to see each of these players individually. The WR class is what stands out to me. I'm hoping the Patriots can get Kendall Wright. He really doesn't look like he runs a 4.61 40 when it's game time, I was really surprised by that. If not, it's not big deal. There's plenty of other good receivers in this draft.
Here's a list of a few I like, not in any particular order though. They're mainly late round guys, but they look pretty good.
1. Brian Quick - WR - Appalachian St.
Height: 6'4'' Arm Length: 34 1/4'' Weight: 220lbs Hands: 9 3/4''
40 Yard Dash: 4.55 Bench Press Reps: 15 Vertical Jump: 34.0'' Broad Jump: 119.0'' 3 Cone Drill: 7.10 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.23 60 Yard Shuttle: DNP
I don't really like him that much. I wouldn't be upset if the Patriots picked him either, though. He's not a deep threat, his vertical wasn't that great yesterday but he has shown the ability in college to go up after the ball in traffic if need be. He has strong hands. His height is really his main asset, it seems. He's very inexperienced, though. That's is main his downfall. He hasn't played football that long so he'll be more of a 'project' type of player to develop, I think.
2.Nick Toon - WR - Wisconsin - 83.0
Height: 6'2'' Arm Length: 32 1/2'' Weight: 215lbs Hands: 9''
40 Yard Dash: 4.54 Bench Press Reps: 18 Vertical Jump: 37.5 Broad Jump: DNP 3 Cone Drill: DNP 20 Yard Shuttle: DNP 60 Yard Shuttle: DNP
Again, not a guy I'm completely sold on but he looks alright. A big guy. That's main part of his game. He uses his size to make plays because he's definitely not going to do it with speed. He's not a deep threat, but a nice intermediate route runner. He's a redzone threat. A really good blocker for a WR. He's not afraid to get in there and help in the running game. He's pretty strong as evident by his bench reps. Quite impressive when considering his arm length and what not. His downfall is his speed and 'explosion'. I think he might have some trouble gaining separation at this level. He has a bit of trouble breaking at the top of his routes which if he could fix would really help his game. Overall, not a bad prospect. He has some good qualities that if he's put in the right situation, he might be able to develop more.
3. Joe Adams - WR - Arkansas
Height: 5'11 Arm Length: 31 7/8'' Weight: 179lbs Hands: 9 3/8
40 Yard Dash: 4.55 Bench Press Reps: DNP Vertical Jump: 36.0'' Broad Jump: 123.0'' 3 Cone Drill: 7.09 20 Yard Shuttle: DNP 60 Yard Shuttle: DNP
This is a guy I really like. He had a tough day at the combine. I was really hoping to see some better things from him. Hopefully he can turn in a better performance at his pro day. Or, maybe Bill Belichick told him to coast through his 40 so he'll drop a bit in the draft....or at least that's what I'm hoping. Then he can run that 4.2 40 in a private workout with the Patriots! In all seriousness, though. He's a play maker. He's dangerous in the return game, whether that's punts or kicks. Just get the ball in his hands somehow and he'll make a play and more often than not, a big play. The only question I have about him is can he become more of a physical player? Defensive guys at this level don't play when it comes to tackling. He's also not that good blocking. Another guy that isn't a polished up receiver, but has good qualities to his game. I'd love if the Patriots could pick him up.
4. Devier Posey - WR - Ohio St.
Height: 6'2'' Arm Length: 31 5/8'' Weight: 211lbs Hands: 9 5/8''
40 Yard Dash: 4.50 Bench Press Reps: 14 Vertical Jump: 36.5'' Broad Jump: 123.0'' 3 Cone Drill: 7.03 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.15 60 Yard Shuttle: DNP
I like this guy as an overall receiver. He's not a burner by any means. He's not Mike Williams from a few years ago, either. I was hoping for a better 40 from him but a 4.5 isn't bad. He had a really impressive vertical, though.
He's a savvy route runner and I really like that in a WR. Knowing how to set up a DB and create separation off of a route. He has a quick change of direction. Pretty good after the catch with the ball in his hands, too. Have to love those WRs that get YAC. The problem I have with him is when he goes over the middle of the field. He's looking for that safety that's going to pop him instead of the ball, which isn't good. He's a good, tough blocker but if the run isn't coming his way, it looks like he takes that play off. Hopefully that changes.
5. Stephen Hill - WR - Georgia Tech
Height: 6'4'' Arm Length: 33 3/8'' Weight: 215lbs Hands: 9 3/8''
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 Bench Press Reps: 14 Vertical Jump: 39.5'' Broad Jump: 133.0'' 3 Cone Drill: 6.88 20 Yard Shuttle: 4.48 60 Yard Shuttle: 11.43
Stephen Hill is a real interesting prospect. He lit it up at the combine and I'm sure no one seen a 4.36 coming from a guy who's 6'4''. His athleticism is just insane. In all honesty, he reminds me of Randy Moss from a pure physical stand-point.
He can run like the wind blows, he can jump over any DB, he's a good blocker. He definitely helped himself yesterday. The only question, though, is can he learn to run routes? GA Tech ran the option and Hill was mainly asked to just run deep every play. Just a very basic route tree. That's not going to work in the NFL. He's not good at reading coverages and finding those holes in zone coverage that you'd want in a WR. He's not great once he catches the ball. His hands are also a question. He has quite a few drops in his collegiate career. It'll be interesting to see who takes a chance on him and where at in the draft they take the chance on him. The Patriots tried something similar with Taylor Price. He was no where near the specimen Hill is, though. He just never seemed to be able to develop an NFL quality route tree. Going deep every play won't work all of the time. He was rated as a 3 rounder before the combine, he might be a late 2nd rounder from his performance.
6. Travis Benjamin - WR - Miami
Height: 5'10'' Arm Length: 31 3/4'' Weight: 172lbs Hands: 8 3/4''
40 Yard Dash: 4.36 Bench Press Reps: 14 Vertical Jump: 38.0'' Broad Jump: 119.0'' 3 Cone Drill: 20 Yard Shuttle: 60 Yard Shuttle: DNP
Not a big guy, but he has some jets. That's really the main part of his game, just going deep and taking the top off the defense like he did while at the U. He has added value in the return game since he has a pretty good history of kick/punt returning. He can also run intermediate routes. His downfall is pretty obvious. He's an undersized guy that's not that strong. He str***les if he's jammed at the line and not given a free release. Once he's jammed, he hasn't shown the ability to recover from it and continue the route. He's also not good in traffic, like going over the middle. All and all, not a bad prospect. Projected to be a 3rd or 4th round guy. I'd take a chance on him around that time.
7. Tommy Streeter - WR - Miami
Height: 6'5'' Arm Length: 34 3/4'' Weight: 219lbs Hands: 9 1/2''
40 Yard Dash: 4.40 Bench Press Reps: 17 Vertical Jump: 33.0 Broad Jump: 125.0'' 3 Cone Drill: 7.08 20 Yard Shuttle: DNP 60 Yard Shuttle: DNP
Another guy from the U. I'm really impressed with what I've heard and read about him so far. He also passes the eye test. 6'5'' and running a 4.4? That's just criminal. He can go deep, he can run short/intermediate routes. He gets separation. He can go up after jump balls. He's strong considering he did 17 reps with those long arms. There's a couple things that need fixing with him, though. His route running can be pretty sloppy. He's not really explosive off the line, although that's more of a physical thing. He's a projected late 3rd round talent. I wouldn't be upset if he is in a Patriots uniform.
I could go on and on. Keshawn Martin, Chris Owusu, A.J. Jenkins, Marvin Jones, Junior Hemingway, Kashif Moore, Lavon Brazill, Marvin McNutt. All of these guys could be nice players and had good days yesterday. There's just so much talent in this class. And all of these were just mainly deep threats because that's what I focused on since I really really really really really want the Patriots to have a legit outside, down-the-field presence. There's plenty of slot receivers, possession receivers in this draft, too.
Today is the DL/LB turn at the combine. I'm really hoping for a quality pass-rusher this year. Maybe Bill will finally stop screwing around and use both first round picks. And use them on defensive players. I'm not going to hold my breath, though. I'm not getting my hopes up no matter what I see today.
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Been watching the combine this morning. It's the DBs. The top cornerbacks have been impressive. Kirkpatrick, Claiborne. All of those guys. Even with Janoris Jenkins' red flags, I'd still take him in the first round in a heartbeat. I really think that kid's going to be a star if put in the right situation and if he stays out of trouble off the field.
Another guy I like is Trumaine Johnson. 6'1 and like 5/8''. Pretty much 6'2''. He went to a small school and didn't face elite competition but he has really impressed me. He ran a 4.5 40 which is not bad for a guy his size. I just didn't like him in the backpedal drill. I think he'll have to be moved to Free Safety in the NFL but he has great ball skills. Who ever drafts him is going to have themself quite a good player. Just what the Patriots need. : ) A guy that's flying under the radar and would fit a position of need.
Harrison Smith is another intriguing prospect at safety. He was a little slow. Ran a 4.56 his first 40 and then a 4.62 in his second. Maybe he can make up for it in positional drills.
After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a “knockout” hit and $1,000 for a “cart-off” hit with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances. The program also entailed payments for interceptions and fumble recoveries, which also violates league rules against non-contract bonuses. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate discipline based on the investigation, the league said in a statement.
"The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for ‘performance,’ but also for injuring opposing players,” Goodell said in a statement released by the league. “The bounty rule promotes two key elements of NFL football: player safety and competitive integrity.
“It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated. We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it.”
Goodell said the investigation began in 2010 after allegations were made that the Saints defenders had targeted Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner and Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre during their 2009 run to the Super Bowl.
"Our security department interviewed numerous players and other individuals," Goodell said. "At the time, those interviewed denied that any such program existed and the player that made the allegation retracted his earlier assertions. As a result, the allegations could not be proven. We recently received significant and credible new information and the investigation was re-opened during the latter part of the 2011 season.”
The investigation found the program was funded primarily by players and at one time might have reached $50,000. The league also said that other defensive coaches in addition to Williams, now theSt. Louis Rams defensive coordinator, were aware of the program.
The report found that Saints head coach Sean Payton was aware of the allegations and did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program. The league also said that general manager Mickey Loomis at one time was directed to end the program when team owner Tom Benson was made aware of the league's findings, and he did not carry out Benson's directions.
"I have been made aware of the NFL’s findings relative to the 'Bounty Rule' and how it relates to our club," Benson saidin a statement. "I have offered and the NFL has received our full cooperation in their investigation. While the findings may be troubling, we look forward to putting this behind us and winning more championships in the future for our fans."
The Saints have gained a reputation in league circles as a dirty team in recent years, and Vikings running back Adrian Peterson said this past season that the Saints targeted his high left ankle sprain.
"I felt like it kind of got overboard," Peterson said at the time. "I got up and kind of got in his face. Thank God I was able to keep my composure."
Saints are screwed. I feel bad for them. Even some of their fans that jumped on the Patriots for spygate.
Interesting first day of free agency.
Vincent Jackson signing with the Bucs for $55,555,555/5yrs. Or Ocho Cincos.
Will be interesting to see how he does with Freeman, they were a big letdown last season, but with the right adjustments could easily make wildcard next year, or further.
can't believe the bills signed mario williams for 96 million. dude only played 5 games last season before getting an injury and having to stay out the rest of the season. seriously going to put that much stock in to that??? peyton manning 2.0 ...... the texans have shown even without him, their defense is incredible and are able to shut down any team in the league.
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