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    Default Is gaydar real? Study says people can tell who's gay just by a glance


    Sample faces from the sexual orientation detection task, in which participants categorized the target face as either gay or straight.


    By Misty Harris, Montreal Gazette

    A controversial new study suggests people can judge whether someone is gay in less time than it takes to blink.

    Reporting Wednesday in the journal PLoS ONE, researchers found college students could detect sexual orientation, at a rate better than chance, simply by looking at someone. This "gaydar" proved proficient for judging both male and female faces, which flashed for just 50 milliseconds, as well as inverted faces.


    "(The images) were so briefly shown, they were grey-scale, and they were turned upside down. Let that sink in for a minute and it's shocking that people could make these judgments so efficiently," says lead author Joshua Tabak, a doctoral candidate in psychology at the University of Washington.


    "Now we know it's not enough to look at differences in individual features — like, 'Oh, gay men's eyes look like this, and straight men's eyes look like that.' The relationships between the features are obviously a component."


    Tabak and co-author Vivian Zayas, of Cornell University, invited 129 students to view 96 photos of young men and women, half of whom who identified as gay. The images were all cropped such that hairstyles weren't visible, nor were such embellishments as glasses, makeup or piercings.


    For women's faces, participants were 65 per cent accurate in judging sexual orientation; for men's faces, accuracy dropped to 57 per cent but was still statistically better than chance. These skills persisted, albeit at a slightly diminished rate, even when the faces were inverted — a novel finding for this area of research.

    "Overall, gaydar is more accurate when we're judging women than men, which is a little surprising since the concept of the gay man is so much more prevalent in popular culture," says Tabak.

    "But the reason accuracy was lower for men's faces was that there were more false alarms: incorrectly labelling a straight person's face as gay. So maybe it's because we have so much more exposure to the concept of a gay man that we're more liberal in labelling a man's face as gay than a woman's."

    Though some may balk at Tabak's conclusion that "gaydar is real," Nicholas Rule — a noted expert on facial judgments at the University of Toronto — says academics have been unearthing evidence for this unconscious skill for more than a decade. He suggests there may be an evolutionary component, with the ability to detect receptive partners proving beneficial to mating.

    But even as collective findings in the literature are robust, consistent and cross-cultural, he says they still make many folks uneasy.


    "People feel very uncomfortable pointing out differences because they think it means they're bigoted or somehow perpetuating biased beliefs. But that's just not the case," says Rule, Canada Research Chair in Social Perception and Cognition. "It's when you take an approach that acknowledges and accepts diversity that you're really combating prejudice."


    The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) did not immediately respond to requests for comment.




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    well i can see that being true to an extent because there was a study that showed most gay people's hair like so, like gay men's hair are suppose to go counterclockwise

    and there was something esle about one of your fingers being shorter or something
    i thikn the index or middle i dont remember


    i think the right one is suppose to be gay

    Well the point is ive tried both test on myself and failed both im bi***ual but i guess i have the body of a straight man
    But ive also tried the hair thing, really hard seeing it, and its confusing sometimes XD

    But ive also shown this video on ******* about a guy who talks about who he finds out
    he says he watches somebody and if an attractive guy walks back and they look at them at least for a little bit they might have *******ual tendency

    But still ***ual orientation isnt so black and white

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    God bless the media... Well, I think there's a difference between homosexuals and straight men in general. Not by any natural means, but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are, whilst simultaneously fighting for equality.

    Now, how does the outcome "slightly better than chance" confirm anything I have no idea. Actually, it doesn't. There a lot of people whose sexual preference could not be identified. I don't know why, I don't know how, but we need to start worrying about real problems. Not on a study called gaydar which is based on statistics that hardly supports it in the first place.

    Also @ Manmanbacon. I suggest you lay of the internet for a while. There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a homosexual male.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Monet. View Post
    God bless the media... Well, I think there's a difference between homosexuals and straight men in general. Not by any natural means, but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are, whilst simultaneously fighting for equality.

    Now, how does the outcome "slightly better than chance" confirm anything I have no idea. Actually, it doesn't. There a lot of people whose sexual preference could not be identified. I don't know why, I don't know how, but we need to start worrying about real problems. Not on a study called gaydar which is based on statistics that hardly supports it in the first place.

    Also @ Manmanbacon. I suggest you lay of the internet for a while. There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a homosexual male.
    says the person that says gay people tend to use makeup and the way your hair swirls isnt really much of a differences and like i said the hair swirl thing wasn't true, for me at least, i never said it was
    i was just adding on the possibility, There is not true way to really know that about somebody because like i said ***ual orientation isnt black and white. and about the feminine thing, yeah ive seen tons of straight men who are feminine, just because somebody is feminie dosent make them gay.And gay people tend to dress really weird? thats everybody, you obviously haven't been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot.
    But i do agree with you to an extent, some gay people become "to gay" at least occurring to what the media says is gay, they become the stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manmanbacon View Post
    says the person that says gay people tend to use makeup and the way your hair swirls isnt really much of a differences and like i said the hair swirl thing wasn't true, for me at least, i never said it was
    i was just adding on the possibility, There is not true way to really know that about somebody because like i said ***ual orientation isnt black and white. and about the feminine thing, yeah ive seen tons of straight men who are feminine, just because somebody is feminie dosent make them gay.
    and tend to dress really weird thats everybody, you obivlousy havent been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot.
    -- says the person that says gay people tend to use makeup --

    And your point is?

    -- was just adding on the possibility, There is not true way to really know that about somebody because like i said ***ual orientation isnt black and white. --

    You base this of off what merit? Gaydar?

    -- about the feminine thing, yeah ive seen tons of straight men who are feminine, just because somebody is feminie dosent make them gay. --

    I've never stated the opposite.

    -- and tend to dress really weird thats everybody, you obivlousy havent been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot.
    --

    You've seemed to have missed my point completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Monet. View Post
    God bless the media... Well, I think there's a difference between homosexuals and straight men in general. Not by any natural means, but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are, whilst simultaneously fighting for equality.

    Now, how does the outcome "slightly better than chance" confirm anything I have no idea. Actually, it doesn't. There a lot of people whose sexual preference could not be identified. I don't know why, I don't know how, but we need to start worrying about real problems. Not on a study called gaydar which is based on statistics that hardly supports it in the first place.

    Also @ Manmanbacon. I suggest you lay of the internet for a while. There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a homosexual male.
    Well, when i said "says the person that says gay people tend to use makeup", i was resounding to what said about "There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a homosexual male." You said that *******uals tend to be more feminine but then you said there is no biological differences between a straight male and a *******ual male.

    "You base this of off what merit? Gaydar?"
    No i base this on the fact that a person isn't just one or the other, Like you said yourself "There a lot of people whose sexual preference could not be identified" I never said Gaydar existed.

    "and tend to dress really weird thats everybody, you obivlousy havent been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot" this and this and tend to dress really weird thats everybody, you obivlousy havent been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot


    Is resounding to the fact that you said "but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are" which makes no sense because you making sound only *******ual do that.

    and if you didnt see my last part of my previous post here it is again
    "But i do agree with you to an extent, some gay people become "to gay" at least occurring to what the media says is gay, they become the stereotype."

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    It's just like saying *******uality is genetic. ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manmanbacon View Post
    Well, when i said "says the person that says gay people tend to use makeup", i was resounding to what said about "There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a homosexual male." You said that *******uals tend to be more feminine but then you said there is no biological differences between a straight male and a *******ual male.

    "You base this of off what merit? Gaydar?"
    No i base this on the fact that a person isn't just one or the other, Like you said yourself "There a lot of people whose sexual preference could not be identified" I never said Gaydar existed.

    "and tend to dress really weird thats everybody, you obivlousy havent been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot" this and this and tend to dress really weird thats everybody, you obivlousy havent been to highschool, everybody is trying to stand out, not just gay people, please ive seen people wear skinny jeans that are orange, and they are as straight as the sun is hot


    Is resounding to the fact that you said "but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are" which makes no sense because you making sound only *******ual do that.
    -- i was resounding to what said about "There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a *******ual male." --

    That's exactly what I said, and I'll say it again. I take it that you don't understand the term "biological", as in biology. Do you happen to be under the age of 12?

    -- Is resounding to the fact that you said "but the fact that *******uals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are" which makes no sense because you making sound only *******ual do that. --

    If you see a self-proclaimed straight man act feminine, wear make-up and dress like a woman, odds are he's a flaming homosexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Monet. View Post
    -- i was resounding to what said about "There are no known biological differences between a straight male and a *******ual male." --

    That's exactly what I said, and I'll say it again. I take it that you don't understand the term "biological", as in biology. Do you happen to be under the age of 12?

    -- Is resounding to the fact that you said "but the fact that *******uals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are" which makes no sense because you making sound only *******ual do that. --

    If you see a self-proclaimed straight man act feminine, wear make-up and dress like a woman, odds are he's a flaming homosexual.
    Well i took "more feminine" as you saying they have low testosterone.
    When you said this "but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are"
    I was talking about that, your saying that *******uals dress weird, and im saying that everybody dresses weird. Your making sound like all *******uals are feminine which is not true, and its not even the fact that you said that its the fact you said because they use make up? I know some people who dress like women, wear makeup. But you seems like your saying all *******uals tend to wear makeup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manmanbacon View Post
    Well i took "more feminine" as you saying they have low testosterone.
    When you said this "but the fact that homosexuals tend to be very feminine by using make up and dress really weird to show how different they are"
    I was talking about that, your saying that *******uals dress weird, and im saying that everybody dresses weird. Your making sound like all *******uals are feminine which is not true, and its not even the fact that you said that its the fact you said because they use make up? I know some people who dress like women, wear makeup. But you seems like your saying all *******uals tend to wear makeup
    -- Well i took "more feminine" as you saying they have low testosterone. --

    That's all fair and well, but it was I who wrote it, not you. There is really nothing to suggest that I was talking about their testosterone levels.

    -- I was talking about that, your saying that *******uals dress weird, and im saying that everybody dresses weird. Your making sound like all *******uals are feminine which is not true, and its not even the fact that you said that its the fact you said because they use make up? --

    There is a certain trend in fashion. So, no, you're incorrect by labeling everyone as weird in the same context in which I labeled some homosexuals.

    I'm not making it sound like all homosexuals are feminine. You're making a straw man; putting words into my mouth to gain momentum in this argument.

    -- I know some people who dress like women, wear makeup. But you seems like your saying all *******uals tend to wear makeup --

    Notice the usage of "tend" in my text and the COMPLETE absent of the word "all" in my argument? Try to read the text the way the writer intended for you to read it, not the other way around. Normally, I'd call you a fucking moron by now, but you're clearly a child.
    Last edited by Claude Monet.; 05-17-2012 at 04:45 AM.
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