Weight lifting + empty stomach = success?

[Eng]

I eat well before and after I train. not doing so typically results in a meagre performance...and my routines are typically rooted around callisthenics, and/or kettlebells so if you're weight training...I strongly advise against an empty stomach. try it once or twice, see your energy levels leave you

do you train to fail? you need peak energy for that otherwise you aren't pushing the envelope

and I'd suggest changing your supplements if it needs to be so precise for an supposed optimum effect; plain ol' (flavoured) whey protein is good imo, x 3 on days you workout, x 2 on rest days > mixed with creatine monohydrate/creapure twice on workout days, once on rest days. then I usually mix dextrose with half a litre of water & fruit juice pre-workouts to give me something of an energy boost

^^ those are the cores, for me. and it isn't very intrusive as long as you remember to take them. you could mix in other stuff like zinc/magnesium or some other vitamin type things if you wanted to broaden the supplementary intake

this separate perspective was probably useless/old news to you, but I thought I'd share

[Claude Monet.]

First off, thanks for taking your time to reply.

I eat well before and after I train. not doing so typically results in a meagre performance...and my routines are typically rooted around callisthenics, and/or kettlebells so if you're weight training...I strongly advise against an empty stomach. try it once or twice, see your energy levels leave you

I tried it yesterday, and achieved mediocre results. I tried it again today, and prestige like never before. Call it pseudo-effect, but I did a total of 19 sets. My normal range is 12-16 at chest & tri day.

do you train to fail? you need peak energy for that otherwise you aren't pushing the envelope

Always. It's the reason I bought N.O. Xplode -- to get that extra energy. What I don't want are bad results.

I'd suggest changing your supplements if it needs to be so precise for an supposed optimum effect; plain ol' (flavoured) whey protein is good imo, x 3 on days you workout, x 2 on rest days > mixed with creatine monohydrate/creapure twice on workout days, once on rest days. then I usually mix dextrose with half a litre of water & fruit juice pre-workouts to give me something of an energy boost

Love my whey protein. Been taking it since day one.

The thing is, N.O. Xplode is also a creatine source; containing different sorts of creatine, actually.<

I'm going to follow this program for a lil' while. See if I get any good and/or bad results. Right now, though, my chest, tricep and trap aches like ****... In a good way.

[Gabriel]

Horrible title, I know.

So I wake up @ 5 AM and immediately fry or cook 6 eggs with a protein shake. I recently bought a performance booster (no-xplode) and it's recommended to be taken on a empty stomach (or 3 hours after your last meal), 30 minutes before your workout for maximum affect. Not following this particular instruction will apparently flaw the "effect" noticeably.

This, however, is not possible for me since I have school @ 9 AM.

My usual schedule:

5:00 AM - Wake up, eat, get ready, etc.

6:00 AM - Head to the gym, usually takes about 40 to 50 minutes

7:00 AM - Weight training, for 45 to 60 minutes.

8:00 AM - Shower, (etc), go to school.

9:00 AM - School.

So, I really don't have the possibility for the "maximum affect" unless I skip breakfast @ 5:00 AM.

My question: Will working out on an empty stomach give me negative results?

It should be noted that I will be taking a whey protein shake right when I wake up @ 5:30 AM, and take amino-acids (BCAA) both before and after my workout and gainer pro as post-workout.

I'll be eating a well balanced meal at lunch which is (at the very earliest) @ 10:30 AM.

Will this be too long? I really want to get the most out of this product which is apparently very effective (and quite expensive for that matter.)

Thanks in advance!

if the 'effect' you're referring to is the a heightened sense of awareness/focus, caffeine pills($5 for 100 on bodybuilding.com) does the same thing quickly. if you are referring to the 'pump' provided by that product then two things:

1.) it's overrated, you will grow whether you get it or not if you eat right.
2.) you can still achieve this even if you don't follow the directions on the bottle to the letter. ive taken that before, along with other pre-workout supplements over the years before dropping them entirely because they aren't worth the costs in my opinion.

id just take it with my breakfast/protein shake. how successful a training session is largely depends on your mindset, not a supplement i.e. the placebo effect. if you think you won't get maximum results from it then you won't.

a great(and better product for the price) would be optimum nutritons platinum hydrobuilder. 30 grams protein, 13.5 grams BCAA, 5 grams creatine per serving, mixed with skim for low fat and more casein to digest while you're at school taken post-workout.

assuming you're a hard-gainer/naturally lean then working out on an empty stomach would be ill advised, but everyone is different. doing 19 sets though is definitely overkill.

[Claude Monet.]

if the 'effect' you're referring to is the a heightened sense of awareness/focus, caffeine pills($5 for 100 on bodybuilding.com) does the same thing quickly.

The supplement has a lot of things in it. I'm sure the caffeine isn't the only thing that makes you focus and prestige better. What about beta-alanin and all that ****? In fact, there are caffeine-free versions of n.o. xplode.

if you are referring to the 'pump' provided by that product then two things:

1.) it's overrated, you will grow whether you get it or not if you eat right.
2.) you can still achieve this even if you don't follow the directions on the bottle to the letter. ive taken that before, along with other pre-workout supplements over the years before dropping them entirely because they aren't worth the costs in my opinion.

This is what pisses me off. Everyone have their own different opinion on it - some favor it, whilst some don't. Who am I to trust?? The clerk at the gymstore favors this product and highly recommends it. You might assume he's taking an advantage of my ignorance, however he saved me from buying an over-priced whey protein supplement, and some other post-workout supplement (rage something?), deeming it pointless.

id just take it with my breakfast/protein shake. how successful a training session is largely depends on your mindset, not a supplement i.e. the placebo effect. if you think you won't get maximum results from it then you won't.

I wonder if it truly is a pseudo-effect all in all. I can feel my blood pumping like crazy and I still feel like running a few miles even after my workout session. An hour after it even.

a great(and better product for the price) would be optimum nutritons platinum hydrobuilder. 30 grams protein, 13.5 grams BCAA, 5 grams creatine per serving, mixed with skim for low fat and more casein to digest while you're at school taken post-workout.

I'll have a look at it...

assuming you're a hard-gainer/naturally lean then working out on an empty stomach would be ill advised, but everyone is different. doing 19 sets though is definitely overkill.

To the core.

However, there has to be some nutrition left from the other day. It can't be THAT serious, like having to eat every 3 hour, drink a protein shake 20min tops after your workout session, etc. It can't be that serious...

Anyway, thanks for the response. I'll be trying this little training program for a while to see if I get any positive results.

[Gabriel]

The supplement has a lot of things in it. I'm sure the caffeine isn't the only thing that makes you focus and prestige better. What about beta-alanin and all that ****? In fact, there are caffeine-free versions of n.o. xplode.

beta-alanine is also found in chicken, and beef, amongst other things. it's an amino acid. i'm sure you're right, and if you have the money for it then do it. i personally liked jack3d better, but now for pre-workout all i do is eat steak and brown rice truthfully.

This is what pisses me off. Everyone have their own different opinion on it - some favor it, whilst some don't. Who am I to trust?? The clerk at the gymstore favors this product and highly recommends it. You might assume he's taking an advantage of my ignorance, however he saved me from buying an over-priced whey protein supplement, and some other post-workout supplement (rage something?), deeming it pointless.

probably because there's a number of variables to consider. i'm naturally lean, which some people(always overweight) say is a blessing, but to bulk it's more of a curse. some people are just pompous and say everything is shit if it's not on their wish list. some people are naturally muscular and either see accelerated growth which they attribute to the product, or to their genetics and therefore condemn the product. it does help you, but recovery is what should be emphasized, and which is what i didn't do while taking it years ago.

I wonder if it truly is a pseudo-effect all in all. I can feel my blood pumping like crazy and I still feel like running a few miles even after my workout session. An hour after it even.

in part because of the product yes, but if you're like me, youll build up a tolerance to it after a few weeks, possibly a month or two.

However, there has to be some nutrition left from the other day. It can't be THAT serious, like having to eat every 3 hour, drink a protein shake 20min tops after your workout session, etc. It can't be that serious...

Anyway, thanks for the response. I'll be trying this little training program for a while to see if I get any positive results.

dont think timing is as important as just getting the calories. i aim for 3000-3500 or so each day, at what meals they come or when isn't as important. of that about 600 or so come strictly from supplements(whey, casein), that's it. the rest are eggs, steaks, chicken, fish, olive oil. the one thing i overlooked the most over the years was the importance of having a shit ton of carbs each day. like 350 grams each day. id go so far as to say it's almost more important than protein, if you're already getting at least one gram per pound of body weight.

[Claude Monet.]

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Just leave this here

I dont know from what planet you are from but in my world we fuel up before we hit the weights. Breakfast is most important meal. Bulk my friend bulk. Drink that protein and do your thing. Get a tan as well.

Assuming it really is THAT serious. I have my breakfast afterwards. Right now, I see no negative effects, but alas, it's too soon to judge.

I've searched around, and it seems that opinions differ greatly on this subject. I'll be giving this a go for a while, and see what's up. Though I will tell you that I am able to prestige like before, if not better.

[Gabriel]

some people just take bcaa's with water before a workout... that goes back to actually buying bcaa's as a standalone supp

[Claude Monet.]

some people just take bcaa's with water before a workout... that goes back to actually buying bcaa's as a standalone supp

As do I... I can't really tell if it does anything, but it's quite successful sale-wise and I've heard people that are solely taking bcaa as a pre-workout supplement claim it does wonders, so...

[PAR FAVAR]

LOL @this thread, but well i've never tried those products or eaten special food before training, IMO i think it depends on your kind of body, in my case i don't have to train too much to notice the effects. But that could be for one reason: i studied in a military school trainning all weekends for 3 years.

Excuse my english, i've lost it, been loong time i don't use it.

[angra]

Weight lifting + empty stomach = success.
For the most part, since you don't even work out an hour not eating shouldn't have any effect on your performance. And I haven't read all the responses, so I'm guessing you obviously lift weights for the benefit of arm/shoulders/back muscle gain, otherwise I'd tell you to mix up your work out, because doing the same thing every day will only prolong your goal, whatever it may be. You don't need to be a nutrition or professional trainer to figure this out either. Empty stomach doesn't mean you won't have any energy to perform the lifting of weights my friend, unless you're one of those skinny weak people type. Oh nevermind.