For Cat, I guess....

[Saint_Tom]

I have a quick etiquette question... Peanut and Taz, mods in the Adult Chat, say "no family roles, it's in the rules." Now, there's a handy little list of the chat rules down at the bottom of the page, not to mention the whole chat guide section of the site (of which I read the etiquette part) and there's absolutely no mention of any of that. What's going on? I figure if it's not in the rules, then there's no way I could be breaking the rules. What's up?

[Old Man in Trench Coat]

The no family role nicknames have been an unwritten rule for a long time even when Cat was a wee kitten. The reason for this is that inbreeding is disgusting and results in the over population of chat avenue as we see it now. There are a large number of people probably even regular users of chat avenue who have been the victims of childhood "sexual" abuse mostly by family members. This is a very traumatic experience and usual devastates the victim for life. Mating or the desire to mate with a family member is simply sick, gross, pathetic, ugly,classless, crude, a sign of ill breeding, criminal in most civilized societies and plain wrong. It is not sexy to want to suckle your moms teats when you have turned thirty.

[Sunset Dreamer]

nicely said trenchy

[Taz.]

I think I remember you. I feel so honored that your first post was to run in here and complain about Peanut and myself.. we are mods for a reason and I don't think its going to change the rule because you ran in here to complain about it. Trenchie.. well said... Anyways.. I thought I should post in this thread since it had my name in it and I hope in the future you think before you run in here to complain on mods doing what they are suppose to..I am off to bed... see you all later

[vonnie]

well said trenchie couldnt have said it better myself,i even gave u reps for this
and saint tom (not that i believe ur a saint) if u prefer to use a family related name go else where to do it.
we no not all family names are sexualy related,bub if we let one sit in the room,we asked how come they can have it and i cant.so everyone is treated the same by asking the to change it.........

[Rakka]

Perhaps saint tom is suggesting that if something is against the rules, it be put in the rules?

And even if that isn't the general intent of the post, surely it's a point anyway?

How is a newbie going to know what has been an "unwritten rule" for however long?

[Cat]

Originally Posted by Saint_Tom

I have a quick etiquette question... Peanut and Taz, mods in the Adult Chat, say "no family roles, it's in the rules."

Would that be the additional rules which mods post in the room at intervals?

Now, there's a handy little list of the chat rules down at the bottom of the page, not to mention the whole chat guide section of the site (of which I read the etiquette part) and there's absolutely no mention of any of that.

And?

What's going on? I figure if it's not in the rules, then there's no way I could be breaking the rules. What's up?

May not be on the log page but I reiterate all adult mods post the additional rules at intervals in the room. Those rules on the log in page would probably have been applicable a few years ago, when chatters used the room to chat, meet friends, and yes even to cyber or find some love interest. However with the new breed of chatter that frequent the room, I find it necessary to remind them of the rules of 'etiquette.' Those consist of reminding low life scum that asking for mother/son or daddy/daughter/brother/sister r/p will not be tolerated. Family names at one time meant just that, but unfortunately some freaks now use such names to openly ask for in.cest. I've got cast iron guts, but some of the things people ask for either amaze me beyond belief or sicken me. Go elsewhere if you want to play using family names.

And Rakka I believe I've already answered your question about how newbies would know the unwritten rules. All mods post those rules in the room regularly for all users to see. Perhaps if some of those users weren't so fecking thick, they'd take the time to actually read some of what's posted in the room, as opposed to blindly copying and pasting their sick, stupid revolting requests.

[vonnie]

Originally Posted by Rakka

Perhaps saint tom is suggesting that if something is against the rules, it be put in the rules?

And even if that isn't the general intent of the post, surely it's a point anyway?

How is a newbie going to know what has been an "unwritten rule" for however long?

it is in the rules its in the rules we post in the room and the chatters pcs who r breaking the rules.

[Rakka]

Originally Posted by ΩcatΩ

Perhaps if some of those users weren't so fecking thick,

But they are! =^.^=

And @ vonnie, OK, I was more curious than challenging.

[Saint_Tom]

Wow, okay... I didn't really think my post was all that confrontational, so I don't really understand the general flavor of the responses here.

I guess I'll just go down the list, then. I'm going to be as up-front, honest, and open as possible, here, so that hopefully nothing will be lost in translation. Watch out for TMI.

Old Man in Trench Coat: An "unwritten" rule is not a rule, and I'm well aware of the trauma that people have experienced at the hands of their own family, I promise. However, plenty of perfectly normal, well-adjusted men like being called "daddy" in bed. Not because they're criminals, or products of "ill breeding," or even because they want to **** their daughters (surprise!). I believe that some things just turn people on and, among consenting adults, that should be good enough. The presumptuous tone of your crowd-pleasing little rant only illustrates your ignorance of the issue at hand because the role I was looking for had nothing to do with in.cest, or pedophilia, or any of that other awful stuff. Pinky swear. Moreover, your same argument can be made (and probably has been made in the past) for many, if not all, kinds of sexually deviant behavior. Are r4pe role plays banned as well? Because, if not, then they should be, because they follow the same line of thought.

Taz: I don't understand your attitude. I wasn't anything other than polite to you and Peanut and, in fact, when I brought up the issue of your unwritten rule, Peanut actually told me to come here and ask Cat about it. I don't understand why, in an "Adult" chat room, people don't treat you like an adult. Also, if you read my response to Old Man in Trench Coat, my position on the matter will be clarified.

Vonnie: Actually, I am a saint, and you can be too, for $20! http://www.pulc.com/
And if you can link me to a place with just as much traffic where they'd let vicious abusive deviants like me run rampant then please post a link, and I'll gladly get out of everyone's hair, no hard feelings, I promise.

Rakka: Yes, thank you.

Finally, Cat:

I'm once again a little bewildered by the antagonism here, particularly from the mods. Did I do something rude and not notice?

The only things I saw posted in the room at intervals were little linked advertisements for the Chat Avenue Webcams and Singles rooms, which my pop up blocker blocked when I clicked on them. That's it. Nothing else. Forgive me for being "fecking thick" but it's the truth. Should I reiterate?

Before Peanut came on, Sweetness was modding, and I was just posting away, no problem. In fact, I'd already played a little bit with a charming 36 year old woman who was at work (I'm 23, by the way). Sadly, she had to leave. You can see why I was more than a little confused. Not that I'm somehow blaming Sweetness for anything, I'm just explaining how it went down.

Now, I never asked to do a daddy/daughter roleplay. I just like being called daddy. It makes me feel all pimp and black and manly and stuff, and that turns me on. You can feel however you want about that, but i think it's hard to deny that if a 36 year old woman wants to call the person she's ****ing "daddy," then she should be able to because she's an adult. It's a fantasy, and this is an adult chat room... why are some peoples' fantasies acceptable, but others' not? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having an adult chat room in the first place? I'm over 18, she's over 18, she should be able to puke in my butt if she feels like it (not that I'm condoning that), without being bothered by people. And, if we do it because the priests touched us when we were small, how is that anybody else's concern?

Now, I realize that all that "filth" (charming term, by the way. A great and useful word for the puritans and homophobes in all of us ) may get in the way of l33t chatters trying to hold conversations that are somehow better and more important than my own... but, fortunately, your format allows people to make their own chat rooms and even privately message each other, so I fail to see why this is even an issue.

I'm sorry the horrors of the internet offend your "cast iron gut," but hey, at least I'm not asking to **** on anyone, and I'm not even really asking for in.cest! It makes no sense that a chat room filled with adults would even be moderated, except in the case of people flooding or posting phone numbers or asking for kiddie porn. Why censor what goes on between two (or even a large group of) consenting adults? Is moderating suddenly synonymous with babysitting? Why didn't I get that memo?

And, well, if you have a convenient little section called RULES in big, red letters right at the bottom of the screen, then it boggles the mind that you wouldn't use it or, even more maddeningly, use it selectively. Is that really so hard to understand?

That's all. I guess maybe my point can be summed up by saying "Censorship sucks! I thought everyone knew that! What the hell?!" and "Why wouldn't you use your rules section for rules?!"

EDIT: Wow, all those little censorship stars make my post unintentionally hilarious. Once again, if I'm a big boy, why can't I use big boy words? I messed with a few words because I wanted to clarify a couple sentences.