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11-03-2007, 01:52 AM
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The Neanderthals, Alive and Well?
For centuries tales of creatures known as the 'almas' in Easternmost regions of the former Sovient Union and Asian countries as Mongolia, have led many scientists to believe since the 1950's that the race may indeed not be an ape-like creature like many have proposed in tales of the Yeti, Sasquatch, Bigfoot, and the like.
What was porposed by such men as Ivan T. Sanderson, Bernard Heuvelman, and others was that the 'Snowman problem' dealt with the species of man known as homo neanderthalis that supposedly died out some 25,000 years ago; that they were indeed alive and well in the most dense and dangerously high altitudes of those countries.
What evidence that has been discovered in the last century have been stone tools, as well as evidence of fire being used rather recently, in some of the more vast caves in Russia. But no bodies, no traces of hair or even DNA have been found.
But some cases throughout the years, at least 'tall tales' told from supposedly ill-learned and uncivilized people, have brought them actually closer to unearthing more intriguing evidence. Case in point, in around 1850 Mongolia a female was captured and was more or less put into slavery for a rather prestigous family. They named the creature Zana, and supposedly this 'wild woman' was repeatedly raped by villagers and actually bore children, some of which lived.
In recent shows on National Geographic the descendants of the wild woman were tested, least their bones, and they had Neanderthal-like appearances themselves, but evidentially were just as intelligent and wholesome as everyone else, as it was reputed that one of the off-spring became a very talented piano player. It is believed, though, now that the wild woman known as Zana was more or less a genetic freak of nature, as her own bones have finally been exhumed, some 117 years after her death in 1890.
In the late 1960's, however, Russian scientists discovered that the more recent Almas sightings went along with other animal movements. If the known wild animals were noted to have moved farther West, as did the Almas sightings. Ironic, considering Neanderthals were considered nomads who would follow the mammoths migration patterns. It wouldn't be until the 1990's that a similar test was done with North American bigfoot sightings, and it showed that the majority of the cases showed that the creatures did indeed following the migration patterns of deer, bear, and other animals.
It should also be noted that in 1953 in the Altai mountains of Mongolia a skull was found, and was reconstructed by a scientist named Wienczyslaw Plawinski, to see what the skull would have looked like, when the creature was alive. The appearance was something along the lines of a mongoloid looking Neanderthal; ironically there is an old legend among the Mongolians that present day Asians became what they are today by cross-breeding with a race of people who were deemed as 'wild men'.
There is a theory among scientists today that the Neanderthals didn't exactly die out by the more "superior" Cro-Magnon man (which is what we are supposedly), but were absorbed by our own race.
With the sightings continuing to grow, and proof of migration patterns, as well as legends being found out to hold more water than orginally thought...is it possible that a race of man, twice as strong as modern man and possibly more intelligent than generally given credit for, still exist in the more 'hidden' parts of the world?
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11-03-2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by "IRISH" RUFUS MURPHY
For centuries tales of creatures known as the 'almas' in Easternmost regions of the former Sovient Union and Asian countries as Mongolia, have led many scientists to believe since the 1950's that the race may indeed not be an ape-like creature like many have proposed in tales of the Yeti, Sasquatch, Bigfoot, and the like.
What was porposed by such men as Ivan T. Sanderson, Bernard Heuvelman, and others was that the 'Snowman problem' dealt with the species of man known as homo neanderthalis that supposedly died out some 25,000 years ago; that they were indeed alive and well in the most dense and dangerously high altitudes of those countries.
What evidence that has been discovered in the last century have been stone tools, as well as evidence of fire being used rather recently, in some of the more vast caves in Russia. But no bodies, no traces of hair or even DNA have been found.
But some cases throughout the years, at least 'tall tales' told from supposedly ill-learned and uncivilized people, have brought them actually closer to unearthing more intriguing evidence. Case in point, in around 1850 Mongolia a female was captured and was more or less put into slavery for a rather prestigous family. They named the creature Zana, and supposedly this 'wild woman' was repeatedly raped by villagers and actually bore children, some of which lived.
In recent shows on National Geographic the descendants of the wild woman were tested, least their bones, and they had Neanderthal-like appearances themselves, but evidentially were just as intelligent and wholesome as everyone else, as it was reputed that one of the off-spring became a very talented piano player. It is believed, though, now that the wild woman known as Zana was more or less a genetic freak of nature, as her own bones have finally been exhumed, some 117 years after her death in 1890.
In the late 1960's, however, Russian scientists discovered that the more recent Almas sightings went along with other animal movements. If the known wild animals were noted to have moved farther West, as did the Almas sightings. Ironic, considering Neanderthals were considered nomads who would follow the mammoths migration patterns. It wouldn't be until the 1990's that a similar test was done with North American bigfoot sightings, and it showed that the majority of the cases showed that the creatures did indeed following the migration patterns of deer, bear, and other animals.
It should also be noted that in 1953 in the Altai mountains of Mongolia a skull was found, and was reconstructed by a scientist named Wienczyslaw Plawinski, to see what the skull would have looked like, when the creature was alive. The appearance was something along the lines of a mongoloid looking Neanderthal; ironically there is an old legend among the Mongolians that present day Asians became what they are today by cross-breeding with a race of people who were deemed as 'wild men'.
There is a theory among scientists today that the Neanderthals didn't exactly die out by the more "superior" Cro-Magnon man (which is what we are supposedly), but were absorbed by our own race.
With the sightings continuing to grow, and proof of migration patterns, as well as legends being found out to hold more water than orginally thought...is it possible that a race of man, twice as strong as modern man and possibly more intelligent than generally given credit for, still exist in the more 'hidden' parts of the world?
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what a great read!
i belive in the yeti ,i believe this earth still holds lots of surprises for us!
they are finding new species ,species that were assumed exstinct
and giant monster like things deep in the ocean
there are more things that we may not even know of
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11-03-2007, 10:22 PM
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neanderthals are still around, alot post here
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