Bisexuality...Fact or Fiction?

I was talking about this with a gay guy friend of mine about this. He agreed that he did not believe in bisexuality and we decided that anyone who claimed it was either confused and gay, experimenting, or just plain desperate.

What do you think?! Does bisexuality exist?

[Chucklehound]

I am not bisexual, but this sort of thing really, really annoys me.

Bisexuality is sexual attraction to both genders.

Um, yes it does exist, or people wouldn't be able to achieve climax with both genders, nor would they be attracted to them in the first place etc.

Why, why WHY do so many gay people, who crave equal rights and an end to discrimination INSIST on being complete wankers and discriminate against bisexual people?! To suggest they don't exist is like society telling you to homosexuality is just a phase, or because you had a strong mother and weak father.

WHY is it so difficult for you to accept that there are sexual identities other than your own? Just because you don't understand how people can really be bisexual, does NOT mean that they are figments of their own imagination, or going through a phase, or the products of having equally strong male and female parents.

And, for the record, HOW DARE YOU, who have been the befactees of so much hard work and sacrifice to ensure equality for gay people, I say again HOW DARE YOU ridicule, dismiss or denegrate other people based on their sexual preference? It's exactly the kind of bitchy, shallow, small-minded and vindictive behaviour that justifies the worst opinions of gay people.

People should stop being so bloody territirial about who people sleep with. If you fancy someone, and they fancy you, then why not express your love physically? And since people fall for people, and both genders are attractive (I may be gay, but I'd still shag Michelle Pfeiffer in her Catwoman outfit), it's entirely unsurprising that many people are attracted to both.

You think I'm overreacting? Go look at Godhatesfgs website, and then tell me again it's ok to discriminate, generalise and dismiss people because of sexuality.

AARGH!! YOU'VE MADE ME SO ANGRY I HAVE TO PUT SOME TROUSERS ON AND GO OUTSIDE FOR A DAMN CIGARETTE AND A WHISKY!!

You got so angry, that was classic. I didn't mean to make you angry. Also, by the way, I am not gay, my friend is though.

For being so adamant about people accepting other people's sexuality you're not very accepting of other people's opinions. Speaking of, you know it is just an (my) opinion and it shouldn't make you so angry because you have no control over it. I am just asking for some friendly discussion.

Anyhow, I'm not saying that it's not possible to be attracted to both sexes. I think that's 100% possible. Also, sure, you can fall in love with either s e x, and if you love the other person, you're right, why not express it physically?

The reason why I don't believe in bisexuality is because I think at the end of the day, you're going to prefer one s e x over the other. It might only be the slightest difference in preference, but even 1% counts. In my opinion, someone who is bisexual is eventually going to want to settle down with one person and that person (unless under extraordinary circumstance) is not going to be BOTH sexes. Therefore, you would have to choose between being mostly gay or mostly straight. In conclusion, because you would have to choose and ultimately have to decide between the two, bisexuality does not exist; at least, not over the long term.

[huffy]

Originally Posted by LadywithSauce

You got so angry, that was classic. I didn't mean to make you angry. Also, by the way, I am not gay, my friend is though.

For being so adamant about people accepting other people's sexuality you're not very accepting of other people's opinions. Speaking of, you know it is just an (my) opinion and it shouldn't make you so angry because you have no control over it. I am just asking for some friendly discussion.

Anyhow, I'm not saying that it's not possible to be attracted to both sexes. I think that's 100% possible. Also, sure, you can fall in love with either s e x, and if you love the other person, you're right, why not express it physically?

The reason why I don't believe in bisexuality is because I think at the end of the day, you're going to prefer one s e x over the other. It might only be the slightest difference in preference, but even 1% counts. In my opinion, someone who is bisexual is eventually going to want to settle down with one person and that person (unless under extraordinary circumstance) is not going to be BOTH sexes. Therefore, you would have to choose between being mostly gay or mostly straight. In conclusion, because you would have to choose and ultimately have to decide between the two, bisexuality does not exist; at least, not over the long term.

self contradictory in the extreme...

also.....

i actually sat here and did my best "catherine tate" voice ....

"how verrrryyy dare you" ...... pmsfl ooooh happy days

[The Voice]

Originally Posted by LadywithSauce

The reason why I don't believe in bisexuality is because I think at the end of the day, you're going to prefer one s e x over the other. It might only be the slightest difference in preference, but even 1% counts.

An interesting perspective, but it doesn't take much scrutiny to reveal the lack of depth it has ...

Person B: I like both broccoli and asparagus.

Person A: You ate broccoli 10 times last month, but ate asparagus only 8 times. I counted.

Person B: Okay so maybe I like broccoli a little more--like 1% more.

Person A: You can't like both; it's one or the other.

Person B: Whatever. I should know what I like more than you ever could. Now excuse me while I go fuck some broccoli and asparagus at the same time ...


The point is that "1%" is just that: 1%. Maybe it's 50%. It doesn't matter. If a person is attracted to both genders then it makes no difference which one that person may like more. All that bisexuality requires is an attraction to both.

Originally Posted by LadywithSauce

In my opinion, someone who is bisexual is eventually going to want to settle down with one person and that person (unless under extraordinary circumstance) is not going to be BOTH sexes. Therefore, you would have to choose between being mostly gay or mostly straight. In conclusion, because you would have to choose and ultimately have to decide between the two, bisexuality does not exist; at least, not over the long term.

Another fragile argument.

Let's say I'm bi. Let's say I marry a woman when I'm 20. OMG I must be straight, right?

Oh wait, I'm only 20 and I just met this hot guy. We screw more than me and my wife do. (And let's not forget that there's always the opportunity for divorce ... and remarriage. And divorce. And remarriage. And ...)

According to your logic, the gender of the last companion a person has before he/she dies determines their sexual orientation.

[Aquilla]

Originally Posted by LadywithSauce

I was talking about this with a gay guy friend of mine about this. He agreed that he did not believe in bisexuality and we decided that anyone who claimed it was either confused and gay, experimenting, or just plain desperate.

What do you think?! Does bisexuality exist?

The Kinsey Reports

The kinsey reports on sexuality were the first exploration of human sexuality circa 1948.

The reports indicated, to the horror of the world as it was at that time, that all human sexuality cannot be simply defined.

I believe that all to be true, a certain percentage of peeps are 100% Straight, as are a certain percentage 100% Gay, the rest sorta are and are not either to differing degrees, or have a combination of preferences.

Hokay guys, I think you're missing my points here because I do believe that people can be (and are) attracted to both sexes.

I am aware of the Kinsey Report, it's a very interesting and sexually exposing report. They also made a very good movie based on Kinsey's research.

I myself do not claim to be 100% straight, but I would never consider myself bisexual.

As for the marriage/remarriage and cheating thing. I am NOT saying that whoever a person is with before death determines their sexual preference. What I AM saying is that I think 99% of people ARE NOT 50% straight and 50% gay (thereby being perfectly bisexual.) I think there is always going to be a preference for one gender over the other either due to physiology, anatomy, chemistry, a developed understanding on the part of one gender over the other or any other reason.

For example, if you are bisexual and let's say you take some kind of Kinsey test to determine that you are 45% straight and 56% gay. Sure, you might be attracted to the opposite s e x, maybe even have s e x with or marry a member of this group. BUT, you are ultimately MORE DRAWN to the same s e x so you divorce and remarry the same s e x. I do not think this means you are bisexual, it just took you more experience to figure out that you prefer the same s e x over the opposite s e x. Hey, under The Voice's claim, you might even get a divorce and remarry the opposite s e x again but you'll only end up cheating or getting a divorce because you still prefer the same s e x.

One might claim bisexuality because they are confused and do not know which gender they prefer, but in my opinion. They (not society) will decide for themselves which gender they prefer over the other.

So, do you understand what I'm saying now? The part of bisexuality that exists is the part where you can be attracted to other people. The part that doesn't is being equally (50/50) split down the middle attracted to both and therefore one will prefer one gender over the other. (Even if they may not know which they prefer right away.)

[The Voice]

Thank you for clarifying that. It makes a lot more sense now.

But you're not so much saying that you don't believe in bisexuality; it's more like you don't believe a person can be perfectly bisexual--being attracted to both genders exactly the same.

[Guerilla]

Well I disagree with your friend, Bisexuality is VERY real, I'm living proof

I like men and women equally and can fall in love or date either.

I do admit that alot of Bi's actually are un-evenly attracted to both sexes, thats normal but lets get down to the point

Bisexuality exists, its impossible to not exist, and anyone who doesn't agree needs to do their research

The new york times once posted an article stating that ONLY women can be bi-sexual and that guys who are bi are straight and experimental, gay and hiding it, or lying al-together...

I have just lost all respect for that newspaper.

No, I automatically loathe everyone who says they're bi.

Ohhh, I'm "judgmental and rude," but you're stupid. I just think it's all bull. At the end of the day, you pick one s e x over the other, therefore not bi.

Hate me, whatever, it's my right to have that opinion.