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Old 04-05-2009, 05:14 AM   #1
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SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea launched a long-range rocket on Sunday in what U.S. and South Korean officials deemed a provocative act.
A recent satellite image shows a rocket sitting on its launch pad in northeast North Korea.









While the United States and South Korea confirmed the rocket launch, the payload of the rocket remains unclear. North Korea has said the rocket was to carry a satellite into space, but the United States, South Korea and other nations fear it could be a missile with a warhead attached.
"With this provocative act, North Korea has ignored its international obligations, rejected unequivocal calls for restraint, and further isolated itself from the community of nations," U.S. President Barack Obama said in a statement after the launch.
"We will immediately consult with our allies in the region, including Japan and (South Korea), and members of the U.N. Security Council to bring this matter before the Council," Obama added. "I urge North Korea to abide fully by the resolutions of the U.N. Security Council and to refrain from further provocative actions."
The council scheduled a meeting for Sunday afternoon after Japan's representative to the United Nations, Yukio Takasu, sent a letter requesting an urgent meeting in response to the launch.
A spokesperson for U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he "regrets that, against strong international appeal, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) went ahead with its planned launch. Given the volatility in the region, as well as a stalemate in interaction among the concerned parties, such a launch is not conducive to efforts to promote dialogue, regional peace and stability."
A senior Obama administration official in Washington confirmed that the rocket did clear Japan.
Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Takeo Kawamura told reporters after the launch that the country's military was not forced to intercept any missile, which it had pledged to do if necessary. Preliminary data show that two objects, possibly boosters from the rocket, apparently fell around Japan, one in the Sea of Japan and one in the Pacific Ocean.
Japanese ships were moving Sunday to the area they believe the rocket parts fell in an effort to retrieve them, government officials said.
Still, Kawamura said his government's position is that even a communications satellite would be in violation of the Security Council resolution, saying Japan "formally denounces" the move.
The rocket -- launched at about 11:30 a.m. local time Sunday (2:30 a.m. GMT) -- was a "provocative act in violation" of a U.N. Security Council resolution on North Korea's weapons program, Fred Lash, a State Department spokesman, told reporters.
An October 2006 resolution condemned North Korea for missile launches in the summer and a nuclear test that same month
"We don't know anything on whether it had an orbital configuration," Lash said about whether the rocket might have carried a satellite. "There is nothing confirmed."
Retired Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, the former director of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, told CNN that the launch apparently involved a "multi-stage rocket," with possibly up to three stages, referring to reports that debris fell off the waters of Japan.
"That means it was able to go through the staging event," signaling success in the rocket reaching long-range capability.
The office of the South Korean president condemned the launch, calling it a "serious threat" to world peace, the state-sponsored Yonhap news agency reported.
"We cannot withhold our regrets and disappointment that North Korea has caused such a serious threat to peace on the Korean Peninsula and in the world by firing a long-range rocket when the entire world is joining efforts to overcome the global economic crisis," Lee Dong-kwan, a presidential spokesman said, according to Yonhap.
Earlier Sunday, before the launch, South Korea's national security council called an emergency meeting amid concerns that a North Korean rocket launch was imminent, a presidential spokesperson told CNN on Sunday.
Western nations fear that North Korea plans a ballistic missile test rather than a satellite launch, but the Obama administration's special envoy to the Six-Party Talks, Stephen Bosworth, said last week that it didn't matter if the North Koreans were trying to put a satellite in space or testing a ballistic missile that could threaten Japan or the United States.
"Whether it is a satellite launch or a missile launch, in our judgment makes no difference. It is a provocative act," Bosworth said.
Bosworth said the U.S. stands ready -- after a launch -- to participate in United Nations deliberations on new sanctions against North Korea, and will be "working very closely with our partners to ensure that after the dust of the missiles settles a bit, we get back to the longer-term priority of the missile -- of the Six-Party Talks."
And, he said, he was prepared to go to Pyongyang after a launch, if invited.
"In my experience in dealing with North Koreans, pressure is not the most productive line of approach," he said. "You have to combine pressure with incentives and I think we are in a position to begin talking about things that we can provide and do what the North Koreans would find positive," which included talking about normalizing the relationship between North Korea and the United States.



U.S. Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, issued a statement late Saturday.
"It is alarming that North Korea carried out this missile launch in direct defiance of the international community," Berman said. "The test is an unnecessary provocation that raises tensions in the region, and I urge the North Koreans to stop using their missile and WMD programs to threaten their neighbors and the rest of the world."
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:48 AM   #2
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Crazy North Koreans your acts do not scare me.
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:51 AM   #3
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Awh. That's bad, they'll regret this because the U.N. will do something mean to them.. like write a letter.
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I don't understand what the big deal is and it certainly is hypocritical of countries that do what North Korea did but yet trying to get smaller weaker countries not to.
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If this ends in anything more than a diplomatic who-ha I'll buy everyone in this thread a coke.
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I don't understand what the big deal is and it certainly is hypocritical of countries that do what North Korea did but yet trying to get smaller weaker countries not to.
North Korea are a threat though. They've already said that if they had the capabilities they would launch nuclear strikes against whatever country they're pissed at. Now it seems they have them. :|
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At 5am BST South Korea were already stating it was a satellite launch and they're the last country to say anything to benefit North Korea. so why when this thread was posted at 9am BST were CNN reporting that South Korea believed it was a warhead?

Ridiculously needless scaremongering.
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North Korea are a threat though. They've already said that if they had the capabilities they would launch nuclear strikes against whatever country they're pissed at. Now it seems they have them. :|
And Iran is supposed to have nuclear capabilities by the end of this year so they might want to buy some of these rockets for western Europe.

The only way more "sanctions" will work if China stops supplying them, which isn't likely.
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North Korea are a threat though. They've already said that if they had the capabilities they would launch nuclear strikes against whatever country they're pissed at. Now it seems they have them. :|
They certainly aren't anymore of a threat to the world then the US is - seeing that the US already proved they are willing to use a nuclear weapon.
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Just face it, everyone has warheads. The only way you can stop them from launching, is by launching your own at them.

Promises, sanctions, treaties mean nothing.
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