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Yes, I'll have a blood transfusion. 26 86.67%
No, I won't have a blood transfusion. 4 13.33%
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:45 AM   #1
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* Imagine you & your friend were at a party. Everything was fine, until your friend got into a fight & there was nothing you can do to help him. The person he was going against pushed him down & now your friend is on his knees. Your friend’s contender pulled your friend up by grabbing onto his hair then the contender wrapped his arm around your friend’s neck – cutting your friend’s air supply. Your friend is now turning blue and from there his contender reached into his pocket and grabbed a dagger. His arms still around your friend’s neck continuously choking him & from there on with the dagger – your friend’s contender started stabbing your friend in the lower core region/stomach. (Below the abs) He freed your friend & left the party immediately. Your friend is bleeding; his bleeding so bad it’s like water pouring out of a faucet. You went over to your friend and try to help him. You put your hand on his wound and put pressure against it to help stop the bleeding. The EMT & the paramedics came and delivered your friend to the hospital. You came along as well. While on the way to the hospital, the paramedics were asking question. One question happens to be, "Are you a member of this boy's family? " You said you weren't & you continued on with my friend doesn't have any family because his mother abandon him when he was a baby. He lived with me from there on & I'm sort of apart of his family. So the paramedics continued on with "Is it alright to give "YourFriendsName" blood transfusion?" As you thought of the question, things that you learned about blood transfusion starts to pop out of your mind.

You learned that-

The blood used in blood transfusion has no history of its owner. Who knows – the owner may have HIV/STD/AIDS, Soars, leukemia & other kinds of illnesses.

TRALI (Transfusion-related acute lung injury) can be cause by this practice and has caused hundreds of deaths each year.

So, what do you say? Yes or no to blood transfusion?


* This is a made up story.

-FACTS –

A doctor might say that blood is valuable because of its use in medicine. Why, though, do many doctors now hesitate to transfuse blood?

There are doctors who can perform bloodless surgery and succeed.

Blood brings many “good things” to the cells of your body, such as oxygen, nutrients, and defensive help, but it also carries away “junk,” such as toxic carbon dioxide, the contents of damaged and dying cells.

One report states that TRALI is now near the top of the list for causes of transfusion-related deaths in the United States and Britain, making it “a bigger problem for blood banks than high-profile diseases like HIV”
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Paramedics and hospital surgeons wouldn't seek permission from a victim's friend for a blood transfusion. Only relatives can give that. Also if it's a life and death situation, they'd no doubt go straight ahead and give a transfusion.

If it was one of my family members, I'd say give the transfusion, and deal with any potential consequences later on. Nothing is 100% safe in life anyway.
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io would give my blood to a friend who was dying. theres no way i would let him die if i had a way to save his life. he could have a kindey or a testicle if he wanted one, i have two. as long as i keep my left nut.
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:47 PM   #4
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Paramedics and hospital surgeons wouldn't seek permission from a victim's friend for a blood transfusion. Only relatives can give that. Also if it's a life and death situation, they'd no doubt go straight ahead and give a transfusion.

If it was one of my family members, I'd say give the transfusion, and deal with any potential consequences later on. Nothing is 100% safe in life anyway.
Lol, yeah! I was thinking about that -- So I changed the a bit of this & that in the story. You'll notice the difference.
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The blood used in blood transfusion has no history of its owner. Who knows – the owner may have HIV/STD/AIDS, Soars, leukemia & other kinds of illnesses.

See, we're not in the 80's anymore...they test for those things.


But yeah I'd give it to them...even if their religion called against it...cause thats how I roll.
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See, we're not in the 80's anymore...they test for those things.

But yeah I'd give it to them...even if their religion called against it...cause thats how I roll.
As you can see, the first report of TRALI was on the early 1990s not the 80s. & from there, there were still hundreds of people dying once a year.
If they had done testing after the 80s wouldn't there be less deaths by then?

By the way, it isn't really saving someone's life by making them live with a regret?

In the link below, it will show how to and what physical state you should be in before you could donate blood.

http://www.redcross.org/services/bio...0_557_,00.html

* I really detest how they still accept blood from people who had cancer under atleast 5 completed years of treatment. I mean there could be lots of things that could go wrong with the physical state of this person accepting a stranger's blood who use to have some virus in their body. What if the virus was still in there, but then it wasn't active YET.
There are lots of things that could go wrong with accepting a strangers blood. You don't know what that person has been to and what else does his blood carry while traveling throughout 60,000 miles in his circulatory system.

One day, doctors think that blood is a medicine and now? Many are going against it.

You should check out a doctor who can perform surgeries without using blood transfusion. To me, that's a real doctor - a real intellegent doctor.
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As you can see, the first report of TRALI was on the early 1990s not the 80s. & from there, there were still hundreds of people dying once a year.
If they had done testing after the 80s wouldn't there be less deaths by then?


By the way, it isn't really saving someone's life by making them live with a regret?

In the link below, it will show how to and what physical state you should be in before you could donate blood.

http://www.redcross.org/services/bio...0_557_,00.html

* I really detest how they still accept blood from people who had cancer under atleast 5 completed years of treatment. I mean there could be lots of things that could go wrong with the physical state of this person accepting a stranger's blood who use to have some virus in their body. What if the virus was still in there, but then it wasn't active YET.
There are lots of things that could go wrong with accepting a strangers blood. You don't know what that person has been to and what else does his blood carry while traveling throughout 60,000 miles in his circulatory system.

One day, doctors think that blood is a medicine and now? Many are going against it.

You should check out a doctor who can perform surgeries without using blood transfusion. To me, that's a real doctor - a real intellegent doctor.

Doesnt mean they died from HIV/AIDS....thats what they primarily test for. And as for them living in guilt, if they give me the power to decide for them then they live with my decision. So yeah you dont like doctors who have to give blood transfusions right? Yeah what about Hemophiliacs?
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Yes, I agree with blood transfusion. If it's to save someone's life that you could help save, then definitely.
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Doesnt mean they died from HIV/AIDS....thats what they primarily test for.
Well, they can die from other diseases which came from the donation.


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And as for them living in guilt, if they give me the power to decide for them then they live with my decision.
Even if they tell you they don't want blood transfusion before they got injured? & maybe continued on about how they are against it?

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So yeah you dont like doctors who have to give blood transfusions right?
I didn't say I don't like them I just don't like how they accept/ allow such & such & could you tell me who wouldn't go to a doctor who performs surgery without dropping blood on the floor or who uses your own blood to save you instead of using different peoples from different places own blood.


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Yeah what about Hemophiliacs?
What about them? They have hemophilia (a genetic disorder that often results in excessive bleeding) and they have treatments and they have instructions to follow in order to prevent from bleeding. Such as: what work, exercise, etc they aren't allowed to do. I doubt that they would need blood to save their lives when they know that they'll just bleed constantly. To me, that would be a waste of a valuable organ. It's like accepting food when you're thirsty or giving someone a can of soda when they're drowning. So, I think that's not much of a help. I also think they want to end this disorder completely that was passed down since the 1800s.

[ The worst example of this situation involved blood contaminated with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). HIV is the virus that causes AIDS (see AIDS entry). In the early years of the HIV epidemic, people who worked with blood did not know about the virus. They were not aware that blood donated by people with HIV also contained the virus. When that blood was used to produce clotting factors, the virus was part of the preparation given to hemophiliacs. Many hemophiliacs developed AIDS in this way. As of 1999, AIDS was still the leading cause of death among hemophiliacs because of this tragedy. Precautions have been put in place to ensure that contaminated blood is not used. The chance of HIV or other harmful agents being present along with clotting factors is very small. ]
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It's a Life and Death Situtation.

Giving Blood would Enlongate their life.

Diseases will just come after.

I mean, It's a no brainer.
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