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Old 08-06-2006, 07:32 AM   #1
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hay dudes i have this problem for many months now i have had these friends and thay are both going to get married to one another im so happy for them. just recently the friend uno the girl lets say we will call her mary and the guy well call steve,
mary recently had a bad problem (i can not tell you what it is i promised to her i would never tell anybody)
so mary and i and steve have alot in common same dress sence, sence of humor were alot alike were cut from the same cloth. anyway mary has a problem and i try to resolve it by being thier for her being their when she needs me uno? for her birthday i gave gave her presents which she loves!!! (even tho i was broke i still spared the cash by going into my savings to make my friend happy on such a special day like you do for a freind right?)

(oh steve went on holiday a couple of days after her birthday, mary was alone) ive done all i could at the time to make her feel better. she told me sombody she once new stole a dvd colletion that was her favrate. to her it was important so i went on ebay and got the whole colletion to keep her happy while steve was away uno? and was trying to keep her distracted from her problems. until she got realy upset with me she wanted to be left alone so ok thats what i did even tho we work in the same room.

then steve came back from holiday and then she got better everything was fine so at lunch time (we all work for the same company) i went along with them for lunch like freinds do right? only it became pretty clear to me that she still wanted to be alone so i went and said to steve who let her walk on so he could speak to me (uno rather than talk to me go talk to her steve, he said you think so i said yeah he said ok ill do that) i got outathere as fast as possible!
then apart from bumbping into them a couple of time when we were going back to the same building and of course talking to steve at breaks i had no contact with them.

until a friday when thay asked me to go with them to the bus stop i said ok (what are freinds for?) and thay were fine mary was acting like the mary ive known for ages and steve seemed fine their bus came and mary handed me a letter she said it explained why she has been treating me unfaily lately (and she realy has been!!!) i went for the long trip home, when i got home i read the letter i was devistated!!! thay said thay did not want to be my freinds anymore that i had been a problem for them in their lives and that my presence suffocated them and made them feel anoyed and upset. now i feel im a good guy i always said when thay both invited me to thier home or to go out to lunch with them ive said (are you sure you dont want to be alone?) (i do not want to intrude on your personal life?) (your husband and wife uno you dont need to invite me to your place its you private life) do you agree?

i dont want to get in the way. uno? ive always said that and thay have replyed no we get plenty of time alone together now we get to hang out with you!. i realy was so upset that letter was like a gunshot wound to the stomach, then thay called me on me mobile not 4 minets after i read that horrible letter. steve was saying to me are you ok man,

i was not ok i was crying my eyes out!!! (yes i am a man and i cry thay are (was) the only freinds i had in the world)
he seemed nice over the phone said to me dont cry and stuff and spoke to me made me feel a bit better i maneged to pull myself back together to say that i would never call text their mobiles nor would i go to work the next week. until she insisted she spoke to me on the phone so i said ok. she said she wrote the letter to point out the things she did not like about me. and she said it was becouse thay are both to cowardly to say the things thay did in person- and that everything she wrote were things that she was taking out on me - NOT BECOUSE OF ME SHE SAID SHES DOING IT BECOUSE OF HER? so we started talking about stuff and planning stuff for the week ahead this coming saterday (yesterday) we were meant to have my going away party
as i was leaving my job she said she would bring some weed even and we will all get stoned and forget about these problems that some people at work have given us (i dont smoke nor wanted thay said i need to relax uno?) i met with steve that sunday and we practised kung fu as usual i said i was not sure i was going to go to work becouse i did not want to hurt my freind any more than thay said i did? steve insisted "yeah come to work!"

however the coming week did not become the pretty picture she (thay) painted over the phone, thay were even more spitefull to me i still did things for them becouse thay were my freinds and that thursday (the thursay just gone) i stayed up to nearly 4.00AM trying to write a letter to say sorry for the things thay acused me of even things i know i did not do. so i could hand it to them on the friday (friday just gone and heal all this discord.) dont know dudes this is tough problem? thay said thay would call me that night about the letter (uno if thay had any questions) i wrote and talk to me about it
BUT after parting for my bus and thay both going to lunch i got some realy disturbing texts on my phone like this one steve wrote (Understood. No Questions. Its better this way.)

and to think in MY letter i coplimented them for thier honesty!!! another realy COWARDLY act from people who for months called themselves my freinds my best freinds that thay would rather hangout with me than anybody else and that thay totaly trust me. and i did trust them also maybe more than i should have.

even tho thay said thay usually dont like other people. anyway saterday came (yesterday) i went out for my going away party and sat in a restaurant for nearly 3hours alone. No one from work came not my manager not mary or steve nobody came. no-one called or texted.
that saterday night i decided to send a text to mary and steve asked if i could meet them so i could give them their DVDs back that thay lent me. then i got this text (Not TOMORROW WE ARE DRUNK AND GOING TO BE HUNGOVER. SORRY MATE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT - and thats becouse my company went out to a club which was arrenged by my boss the man who said he was my friend. and did not invite me. i was the top salesman of his company for many months in the past.

just on my very last day my boss and manager was saying to me - have a break for five weeks or so to get this off your chest forget what has happaned to you with the problems youve had from mary and steve having a go at you get them out your system and in 5 or so weeks we will call you see where we can go from there. thats nice of them : ).
im writing this becouse i need advice dudes on were to go from here with my friendship with mary and steve if ANY i was once a happy person but since they decided to ATTACK ME for things mary claims are not my fault. my whole life has changed i have not just lost my freinds ive lost my job ergo my income, i lost the ability to consentrate on my work and work proply which led to the joint desition i should resign

what do you guys think i should do? i would love advice?
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Wow your really in a pickle aren't you well

I would say don't be friends with Mary and Steve anymore
Quit your job because it seems like you can't work there around your so called friends and the fact that you boss was being a snob not inviting to a club.

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you know i sent them a text asking if i could put her letter on this site. so i could just try and get these feelings of being used out of me and behind me. i feel realy used. i wanted to see what other people think uno i got knowone else to ask she was going round my workplace telling other people my private business, i did not know what else to do?

this ordeal has riped the energy out of me realy it realy upset mary uno so i am not going to do that to her i will not post that nasty letter i just want a peacefull life and enjoy it uno?

in the end maybe its all my fault two weeks ago steve told me he realy needed a book he lent to me so i said to mary i would get it to him as fast as possible
so that same day i double bused it to their side of the city to give him his book back
when i got their thay were not home so i used the last of my credit on my mobile to call them (i had been trying to avoid using my credit or money i figered thay would not mind such a jesture) but the thing is thay both got realy upset when i was outside their home to deliver their book
and maybe thats the reason why their so angry now becouse i did not tell them i was going to their home i was trying to save little change and maybe trying to hard to please my friends i will "never" from this day forth deliver a book on time

its a shame i can never speak to them again.

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hay dudes i have this problem for many months now i have had these friends and thay are both going to get married to one another im so happy for them. just recently the friend uno the girl lets say we will call her mary and the guy well call steve,
mary recently had a bad problem (i can not tell you what it is i promised to her i would never tell anybody)
so mary and i and steve have alot in common same dress sence, sence of humor were alot alike were cut from the same cloth. anyway mary has a problem and i try to resolve it by being thier for her being their when she needs me uno? for her birthday i gave gave her presents which she loves!!! (even tho i was broke i still spared the cash by going into my savings to make my friend happy on such a special day like you do for a freind right?)

(oh steve went on holiday a couple of days after her birthday, mary was alone) ive done all i could at the time to make her feel better. she told me sombody she once new stole a dvd colletion that was her favrate. to her it was important so i went on ebay and got the whole colletion to keep her happy while steve was away uno? and was trying to keep her distracted from her problems. until she got realy upset with me she wanted to be left alone so ok thats what i did even tho we work in the same room.

then steve came back from holiday and then she got better everything was fine so at lunch time (we all work for the same company) i went along with them for lunch like freinds do right? only it became pretty clear to me that she still wanted to be alone so i went and said to steve who let her walk on so he could speak to me (uno rather than talk to me go talk to her steve, he said you think so i said yeah he said ok ill do that) i got outathere as fast as possible!
then apart from bumbping into them a couple of time when we were going back to the same building and of course talking to steve at breaks i had no contact with them.

until a friday when thay asked me to go with them to the bus stop i said ok (what are freinds for?) and thay were fine mary was acting like the mary ive known for ages and steve seemed fine their bus came and mary handed me a letter she said it explained why she has been treating me unfaily lately (and she realy has been!!!) i went for the long trip home, when i got home i read the letter i was devistated!!! thay said thay did not want to be my freinds anymore that i had been a problem for them in their lives and that my presence suffocated them and made them feel anoyed and upset. now i feel im a good guy i always said when thay both invited me to thier home or to go out to lunch with them ive said (are you sure you dont want to be alone?) (i do not want to intrude on your personal life?) (your husband and wife uno you dont need to invite me to your place its you private life) do you agree?

i dont want to get in the way. uno? ive always said that and thay have replyed no we get plenty of time alone together now we get to hang out with you!. i realy was so upset that letter was like a gunshot wound to the stomach, then thay called me on me mobile not 4 minets after i read that horrible letter. steve was saying to me are you ok man,

i was not ok i was crying my eyes out!!! (yes i am a man and i cry thay are (was) the only freinds i had in the world)
he seemed nice over the phone said to me dont cry and stuff and spoke to me made me feel a bit better i maneged to pull myself back together to say that i would never call text their mobiles nor would i go to work the next week. until she insisted she spoke to me on the phone so i said ok. she said she wrote the letter to point out the things she did not like about me. and she said it was becouse thay are both to cowardly to say the things thay did in person- and that everything she wrote were things that she was taking out on me - NOT BECOUSE OF ME SHE SAID SHES DOING IT BECOUSE OF HER? so we started talking about stuff and planning stuff for the week ahead this coming saterday (yesterday) we were meant to have my going away party
as i was leaving my job she said she would bring some weed even and we will all get stoned and forget about these problems that some people at work have given us (i dont smoke nor wanted thay said i need to relax uno?) i met with steve that sunday and we practised kung fu as usual i said i was not sure i was going to go to work becouse i did not want to hurt my freind any more than thay said i did? steve insisted "yeah come to work!"

however the coming week did not become the pretty picture she (thay) painted over the phone, thay were even more spitefull to me i still did things for them becouse thay were my freinds and that thursday (the thursay just gone) i stayed up to nearly 4.00AM trying to write a letter to say sorry for the things thay acused me of even things i know i did not do. so i could hand it to them on the friday (friday just gone and heal all this discord.) dont know dudes this is tough problem? thay said thay would call me that night about the letter (uno if thay had any questions) i wrote and talk to me about it
BUT after parting for my bus and thay both going to lunch i got some realy disturbing texts on my phone like this one steve wrote (Understood. No Questions. Its better this way.)

and to think in MY letter i coplimented them for thier honesty!!! another realy COWARDLY act from people who for months called themselves my freinds my best freinds that thay would rather hangout with me than anybody else and that thay totaly trust me. and i did trust them also maybe more than i should have.

even tho thay said thay usually dont like other people. anyway saterday came (yesterday) i went out for my going away party and sat in a restaurant for nearly 3hours alone. No one from work came not my manager not mary or steve nobody came. no-one called or texted.
that saterday night i decided to send a text to mary and steve asked if i could meet them so i could give them their DVDs back that thay lent me. then i got this text (Not TOMORROW WE ARE DRUNK AND GOING TO BE HUNGOVER. SORRY MATE. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT - and thats becouse my company went out to a club which was arrenged by my boss the man who said he was my friend. and did not invite me. i was the top salesman of his company for many months in the past.

just on my very last day my boss and manager was saying to me - have a break for five weeks or so to get this off your chest forget what has happaned to you with the problems youve had from mary and steve having a go at you get them out your system and in 5 or so weeks we will call you see where we can go from there. thats nice of them : ).
im writing this becouse i need advice dudes on were to go from here with my friendship with mary and steve if ANY i was once a happy person but since they decided to ATTACK ME for things mary claims are not my fault. my whole life has changed i have not just lost my freinds ive lost my job ergo my income, i lost the ability to consentrate on my work and work proply which led to the joint desition i should resign

what do you guys think i should do? i would love advice?





i cant read all that erm

*thinks

erm

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ok so i figured it was a bit wrong not reading so i read it....
it all sounds a bit mad really but i will point out where I THINK your going wrong
1= u do not need to impress friends they are there regardless if theyre real friends

2= stop trying so hard if they are true friends when they realize u havnt contacted or answered theyre calls (which u need to do) they might just realize how valuable a friend u actually was/are

3= u sound really alone do not think that its the end of the world ...
the way i look @ things i see no family i have no real friends to count on

but....

4= on the dark side SORT OF my best friend killed himself in prison 4 weeks ago <<< no joke seriously
the reason he was alone he was let down.
now i say on the bright side because if you think about what his family are going through the hurt the pain of losing a SON/BROTHER/UNCLE it is the hardest thing
and 4 me to have got through losing my best friend when i know he died alone , i know you can get through this hun and its selfish to waste your life on such small things when others would grasp a second of a life thats no longer there, if need be we can help eachother wot else to suggest hun u need me pm (holla)
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ok so i figured it was a bit wrong not reading so i read it....
it all sounds a bit mad really but i will point out where I THINK your going wrong
1= u do not need to impress friends they are there regardless if theyre real friends

2= stop trying so hard if they are true friends when they realize u havnt contacted or answered theyre calls (which u need to do) they might just realize how valuable a friend u actually was/are

3= u sound really alone do not think that its the end of the world ...
the way i look @ things i see no family i have no real friends to count on

but....

4= on the dark side SORT OF my best friend killed himself in prison 4 weeks ago <<< no joke seriously
the reason he was alone he was let down.
now i say on the bright side because if you think about what his family are going through the hurt the pain of losing a SON/BROTHER/UNCLE it is the hardest thing
and 4 me to have got through losing my best friend when i know he died alone , i know you can get through this hun and its selfish to waste your life on such small things when others would grasp a second of a life thats no longer there, if need be we can help eachother wot else to suggest hun u need me pm (holla)
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I sent a few texts to steve and mary last night. which maybe i should not have done i guess i was upset when i texted them heres the text i sent them. it made them so angry

I SPOKE TO **** (OUR BOSS) FRIDAY HES CALLING ME IN A FEW WEEKS. AT THE MOMENT HE FEELS I NEED A VERY LONG BRAKE HE KNOWS IVE HAD ALOT TO DEAL WITH ON TOP OF YOU GUYS ATTACKING ME. HE DOES NOT THINK THATS COOL. YOU CAN (NOT) EXPECT TO TREAT PEOPLE LIKE DIRT. AS YOU HAVE DONE. I CANNOT ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO DO (THIS) AND WHY ATTACK ME? AND BETRAY MY TRUST LIKE THAT. IT WAS SO COWARDLY MAN : ( YOU HAVE ALOT TO PROVE BEFORE WE MAY INTERACT ON THAT LEVEL AGAIN. AND THAT IS SO RUDE ASKING ME TO DO WHAT YOU WANT AFTER WHAT YOU DID. I AM NOT GOING TO BE AS CHILDISH ABOUT THIS AS YOU HAVE BEEN. IM GOING TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND (SEE) BEFORE I DO ANYTHING. MARY TOLD ME WHAT SHE LIKES ABOUT JAPANESE PEOPLE IN JAPAN PEOPLE HAVE MORALS AND HONER WHAT HAPPENED TO YOURS?

do you think i was being to harsh in that text? ok
(1) the part about being cowardly was the part were thay sent me that letter. and were thay sent me some realy nasty texts i only put one on here but thay got worse. and thay never would say these things to my face its all done at distence or thu other people! thats were the childish came part came in uno?

(2) betrying my trust was were thay said thay would call and talk to me but the vast amount of what thay have been saying to me for two weeks have been lies? like see you at your going away party or yes we will give you a reply in person. is that to much to ask? (this is not like them at all)

(3)the part about asking me to do things for them was steves ateped at finding a particuler martial arts class which even our central city center librery believed to be closed but never the less i contined to spend the hole thursday morning looking for him so we could both do something after work uno and my persistance payed off the next day i got him the address and everything. A JOB WELL DONE!

(4) the part about morals and honer what happened to yours. is the fact that i feel its pretty low to do all of the above have me still say good things to them and them not even saying sorry to me for taking out their problems on me i do realy like them but what thay have been doing lately has been so disruptive on my life i could not even eat.

i have got some texts replys to that text thier from steve which are less than polite you know i just want to heal the rift between us - being careing and considerate was not working so i guess with all this bottled up anger and sorrrow i just burst out uno? went on the offensive. mary and steve even tho thave hurt me i still feel like im their friend and its so hard doing this i dont know what else to do uno? thay have both given me realy good advise for some problems ive had in my life and im very gratefull of course its just lately with all the nasty texts and the mean things the way thay have done it uno?

THANKS YOU GUYS blondy dark lady and everybodyelse so much for your advice im going to follow it to the letter? and see how it goes depite what i have wrote on this webage regarding this ordeal with my friends
THAY (ARE) REALY GOOD PEOPLE
i dont know what changed? it has left me so confused. my boss said look at your self this is turning you into a wreck its affected every area of your life and now your income i can tell look at your work from top in the office to zero thier is something wrong thier
mate pull yourself together have a break get this off your chest.

also im not going to post any of thier texts any more mary and steve are realy protective of their privacy i dont want to violate that. i hope someday we can pickup the pieces and put them all together. and be friends again ive given them this website address so thay can read what ive said so maybe thay will put a postup? or call me? as it stands now im looking for a job abroud to get out of this country and try and clear my head uno smoke the peace pipe.
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ok regarding myself steve and mary were just not going to talk to oneanother anymore
(maybe one day when were not angry over stupid things? or reasons)

i suppose at the end of the day it realy was to much of a strain (on all of us) we worked in the same building same room (large room) and we saw eachother every day like what mary said even if you ate your favrate food everyday you would get sick of it after a while.

thay realy were my best mates and untill recent and stupid reasons were not. thay realy did care how i think and how i felt i realise that message i sent them was wrong what i did was in the heat of the moment and i did not mean any of it THAY are the most MORAL and HONORABLE people i have ever met i felt like i could tell them anything i did (do?) totoly trust them.

it was just getting "SO" out of "CONTROL" we "BOTH" agreed it was getting out of hand
and there we are pointing out each others faults and it got to the point were i was saying enogh of this we are (were) friend right? whatever changed was due to the situation and strees of our jobs "WE" are not to blame ok i understand. i did not like being sent those nasty texts that did not even make the sligtest bit of SENCE! (which mary did not know about?) and thay did not like the mean text i sent them back. we just have to agree we disagree on this

and get on with our lives i tried looking at it from their point of veiw and i can see what thay ment thay are right steve the other day said i was trying to hurt them becouse i did not like the sound of what thay were saying in the letter thay sent me which could not be further from the truth!
i value thier input even if i did not say it (which i did) but thay are right i have to admit i am ashamed of what i said to them in the heat of the moment it was realy rude and immature my texts were horrible and what thay said were right. but steve would not let me speak to him? so what could i do? i just wanted things to go back as thay were before all this drama and fault finding took place.


mary and steve are? were my best friends ive had and i would love to hear from them in the future when our tempers have calmed down and when weve all moved on with our lives im sure once we forget about this stupid mess and its behind us and weve moved on well be better for it better now that we know our dark sides and what it is that bothers us and annoys us and angers us we can better avoid and understand each other in the future. and if at any point thay want to know how i think about them then read my letter!

GOODBYE STEVE AND MARY I HOPE YOU HAVE LONG AND HAPPY PROSPEROUS LIVES AND THAT YOUR DREAMS WILL COME TRUE! - AND THAY WILL COME TRUE!!!


P.S. sorry i called you steve and mary its just i was not going to use your real names.
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