Haggard Pronounced ‘Completely Heterosexual'

The Voice · 02-07-2007, 02:07 AM

February 6, 2007
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: February 6, 2007
Filed at 9:59 a.m. ET

DENVER (AP) -- One of four ministers who oversaw three weeks of intensive counseling for the Rev. Ted Haggard said the disgraced minister emerged convinced that he is ''completely heterosexual.''

Haggard also said his sexual contact with men was limited to the former male prostitutes who came forward with sexual allegations, the Rev. Tim Ralph of Larkspur told The Denver Post for a story in Tuesday's edition.
''He is completely heterosexual,'' Ralph said. ''That is something he discovered. It was the acting-out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing.''

Ralph said the board spoke with people close to Haggard while investigating his claim that his only extramarital sexual contact happened with Mike Jones. The board found no evidence to the contrary.

''If we're going to be proved wrong, somebody else is going to come forward, and that usually happens really quickly,'' he said. ''We're into this thing over 90 days and it hasn't happened.''

Haggard resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals last year after allegations of sexual misconduct surfaced. He was also forced out from the 14,000 New Life Church that he founded years ago in his basement after Jones alleged Haggard paid him for sex and sometimes used methamphetamine when they were together. Haggard, who is married, has publicly admitted to ''sexual immorality.''

Haggard said in an e-mail Sunday, his first communication in three months to church members, that he and his wife, Gayle, plan to pursue master's degrees in psychology. The e-mail said the family hasn't decided where to move but that they were considering Missouri and Iowa.

Another oversight board member, the Rev. Mike Ware of Westminster, said the group recommended the move out of town and the Haggards agreed.
''This is a good place for Ted,'' Ware said. ''It's hard to heal in Colorado Springs right now. It's like an open wound. He needs to get somewhere he can get the wound healed.''

It was also the oversight board that strongly urged Haggard to go into secular work.

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Lemme get this straight ...

This married ex-minister--who railed against gays on a regular basis, and led the Religious Right's fight against gay marriage--gets caught with a male prostitute that he'd been seeing for years.

So naturally ... he goes into rehab for "alcoholism."

Yet, incredibly, he emerges as a completely straight man. (I had no idea that programs for alcoholics even addressed such things!)

I knew these evangelicals would use him as an example to support their "gay rehab" programs.

What a joke.

Luka · 02-07-2007, 02:41 AM

Wait, what's ''secular work?''

And I find it impossible that someone as long as him who'd been cavorting with a male prostitute, turn round and be 'completely heterosexual'. That's complete and utter shite.

I'll reply tomorrow, i'm off to bed.
Ciao.

The Voice · 02-07-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Luka

Wait, what's ''secular work?''

Secular work refer to jobs that don't involve a church or ministry. Basically, a regular job ... although he might do volunteer work of some kind.

Luka · 02-07-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Voice

Secular work refer to jobs that don't involve a church or ministry. Basically, a regular job ... although he might do volunteer work of some kind.

Alright, thanks.

And haha, I'd agree, too. The 'completely heterosexual' guy who was 'once' gay would do better incase of violations from the church ministry? Idk i'm just guessing.
But no-one goes straight from gay, it's just.. no.

**PhillyStorm** · 02-07-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Luka

Alright, thanks.

And haha, I'd agree, too. The 'completely heterosexual' guy who was 'once' gay would do better incase of violations from the church ministry? Idk i'm just guessing.
But no-one goes straight from gay, it's just.. no.

They probably said to people they were straight, but inside they were always gay. You do not go from staright to gay overnight. It is damn right impossible. You had to have had tendencies and curiosities about the same se.x. I know plenty of people who say there straight and act straight, but then try to hit on me when no is around and I am like whatever.

If they cannot be truthful with themselves than that means they are insecure. It doesn't mean they can change from liking girls to liking guys in a matter of hours. It just does not work that way.

-·=»‡«=·-Ð®åĝøŋ§ƒî®ê-·=»‡«=·- · 02-07-2007, 10:47 AM

So this guy was "cured" of homosexuality?

First off, there isn't anything TO cure. If you're gay, you're gay. Deal with it. You cannot be "cured" of it. It is NOT a mental illness. That crap went out with the 60's.

I'd sure like to see the written material from this "program" the guy completed to get "fixed". As a matter of fact I'd like to see the case file. Bet it would make interesting reading.

-·=»‡«=·-Ð®åĝøŋ§ƒî®ê-·=»‡«=·- · 02-07-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ***MARK C.***

You don't want to be cured?

About as much as you'd like to "Be cured" of being straight.

Luka · 02-07-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyStorm

They probably said to people they were straight, but inside they were always gay. You do not go from staright to gay overnight. It is damn right impossible. You had to have had tendencies and curiosities about the same se.x. I know plenty of people who say there straight and act straight, but then try to hit on me when no is around and I am like whatever.

If they cannot be truthful with themselves than that means they are insecure. It doesn't mean they can change from liking girls to liking guys in a matter of hours. It just does not work that way.

Lmao, poor you.

And it's true.. no matter what anyone thinks, you can't be cured.
As Jamie said.. you're gay, you're gay. Deal with it.