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Old 04-11-2007, 11:22 AM   #1
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Most of us in the UK will have read or heard about 35 year old Natalie Evans who whilst in a relationship had some embryos fertilised and frozen in 2001, as she was due to undergo treatment for cancer.

The couple separated in 2002, and the ex Howard Johnston then withdrew his consent for the embryos to be used. Having fought in the High Court, then Court of Appeal, yesterday she went to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, and again failed to win her case. This means those embryos will be destroyed within 28 days.

If any adults in here, particularly those who are parents, had sat in on those appeals, what decision do you think you'd have made and why? Here's a link to the story. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200704...?printer=1link

Oh and before anyone says this is a debate and therefore in the wrong forum.......tough!!! I posted this here to see if users in the adult forum can talk about things other than birthdays, or what kind of day they're having.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:34 AM   #2
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Although I feel sorry for her, I think they did the right thing. Her ex should have the right to decide when he becomes a parent, and like he said, who with. I do feel heartly sorry for her as it's probably her last chance to have a child.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:40 AM   #3
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Although I feel sorry for her, I think they did the right thing. Her ex should have the right to decide when he becomes a parent, and like he said, who with. I do feel heartly sorry for her as it's probably her last chance to have a child.
She can adopt if she wants children so desperately Marie. Seems she's with someone who originally said he would have taken full responsibility if she'd been allowed to use those embryos. Therefore they can still have a family albeit not a biological one.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:43 AM   #4
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She can adopt if she wants children so desperately Marie. Seems she's with someone who originally said he would have taken full responsibility if she'd been allowed to use those embryos. Therefore they can still have a family albeit not a biological one.
Yeah I thought about adoption, I wasn't sure of her status though. As she's with someone I suppose her chances are much better of adopting than if she'd been on her own. I don't think she should have relied on her ex anyway to be honest, I understand she'd want biological children, but she should respect his right to have children with who he wants to.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:01 PM   #5
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Cat, I would have agreed with the decision they made. Both parents should have say in keeping the embryos. If one doesn't want them used, then they shouldn't be used. But, that's just my opinion.
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this i a tricky thing to answer, but i would side with dreamer on this one if one of the parents decides against it then they should not be used !


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The bottom line is that neither decision would have been fair.

If the decision had gone the opposite way then it would have been unfair on the male because he will have fathered a child with a woman he no longer wants to father a child with.

As the decision stands it denies the woman any chance of having her own child. Yes adoption is an option but I don't think it would be the same as having a child of your own.

Yes she's a victim but she's not the victim of a vindictive ex-fiance, he had every right to say no to children being born of his sperm. She was a victim of cancer, if this had happened 5 years earlier she would not have had this chance, 5 years later she could have had her unfertilised eggs frozen but unfortunately as it stands she has only the option to adopt.
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Ok...
Being a parent is the most beautiful thing in life....It is a Gift
As she was under going treatment for Cancer, I believe it is wrong for Him (her ex) to withdrawl..
Why you might say..?
He agreed to it before treatment, and and the split...
she deserves her own Children, and regardless of him not want to be part of her life at the moment, she still deserves to have her own Kids...
This is a very Sad, case and the law is wrong..
Yes adoption is an option, but "they "agreed" on this before their divorce..
Besides they were her eggs not his His...
OMG!!!
He does not want part, fair enough , but she has every right to ask for a "anonymous " donor do give her the chance to have her own child...

This sucks....
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This is a tough one.

If i had it was me i would have denied her appeal also simply because when it comes to seriouse things sutch and haveing children i think that both partys mutch be singing the same tune so to speak.

I mean you never no,if the court had granted in her favoure she could quitye easily demand that the man take responsibility for the child in the future and the way the court systems are these days they probebly would make him pay child support and things even though he never gave his concent.

I think they are right because it sounds like they would be at each others throuts any way and stuck in the middle would have been a innocent child.



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Ok...

Being a parent is the most beautiful thing in life....It is a Gift
As she was under going treatment for Cancer, I believe it is wrong for Him (her ex) to withdrawl..
Why you might say..?
He agreed to it before treatment, and and the split...
she deserves her own Children, and regardless of him not want to be part of her life at the moment, she still deserves to have her own Kids...
This is a very Sad, case and the law is wrong..
Yes adoption is an option, but "they "agreed" on this before their divorce..
Besides they were her eggs not his His...
OMG!!!
He does not want part, fair enough , but she has every right to ask for a "anonymous " donor do give her the chance to have her own child...


This sucks....

Robbie, it's not just eggs though, these are embryos, so they are fertalized eggs, fertalized with his sperm. He should have some say in it.
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